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PersonJANEVANS02
18/10/2019 at 10:09pm
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I have been researching LED light strips, because my husband now has a guide dog so we have had to upgrade to a 6 man tent and I find using a central light doesn’t give enough light for reading and getting fed up with having to use head torch to supplement lighting.

Because space in the car is limited I thought the light strips would be ideal as they roll up so small. So far I have decided I want at least 990 lumens and as long as possible or the type you can add to, thought I found the perfect ones Quest LED light strip rope and Quest LED extension which would give me 5 meters which is 60 LEDs per meter which I hope would work ok and cost me around £50 however every light set I have looked at state the lumens except the Quest. I telephoned one company who sell them but they said they did not know.

Does anyone have the Quest lights and can answer my question ? or any other suggestions for light strips but I don’t want to spend too much in case they don’t work as we hope.

Any advice much appreciated.


Personallanguest
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Hi, nearly all suppliers quote the watts. The Quest kits are 14.4 watts and Google says 900 lumens is 15 watts.

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We use the vango sunbeam flexi light. Length is 6m controlled via remote. Comes on a handy reel so doesn't take up much space.

Flexible LED Lighting Strips - Attached using the Vango Sky Track® System or hook and loop attachment providedLED Lights- 360 LED’s producing 3400 lumens create a warm and bright lighting effectRemote Control - Allows you to adjust the brightness easilyUK Plug & EU Adaptor - Includes a UK Plug and European adaptorHook and Loop Ties - Included for additional attachmentIP67 Rated Lights - Protected from dust and capable of withstanding water immersion between 15 cm and 1 metre for 30 minutes

Prices range from around £40 - £50


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21/10/2019 at 10:08am
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Thank you for info on converting watts to lumens I must be having a blonde moment because didn’t think about asking google.

Also thanks for info on Vango Sunbeam system which would be my favourite but my husband has now decided he would prefer a tube system and our local camping shop recommended outdoor revolution lumi link tube light kit which gives you 3 tubes however they did not have any in stock because apparently they fly out the door so we could not see how bright they are.

I have searched the web but no site states the lumen or watts so I rang outdoor revolution and after them trying to find the answer they said even the instruction book does not tell you !! So if the manufacturers cannot help I wondered if anyone on this site have them and could answer my question ?

Basically my husband needs white light not yellow which does restrict us a little and as bright as possible as he has 2 % of his vision so needs as much light as possible

Any help much appreciated


Personnavver
21/10/2019 at 8:59pm
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Be careful converting watts to lumens. Watts are the power going into the lamp and lumens is the amount of light coming out, so it depends entirely on the efficiency of the lamp as to how many the lamp produces and then if the light has any form of glare control (such as a light shade) it will further reduce the light being emitted.

Then it depends on the light distribution of the light fitting as to how much light ends up where you want it. e.g. some lights will shine up onto the ceiling and rely on light being reflected back to your desk.

Again be very careful with LEDs. Good lighting requires light on the working plane. That's the area you are looking at like the page of your book or the surface of your desk you are working on. Good lighting requires an illumination of around 200 lux for non critical work going up to 500 lux for critical work for a long period. Someone with impaired sight may required even more.
Lux it the number of lumens per square metre actually reaching your working plane.

Glare is a major problem with LEDs. If you look directly at a light the iris in your eye will close to restrict the amount of light entering your eye. Think how much you can see when looking at a car head light. By day, there is lots of light from daylight so you can see even when looking at a head light but at night all you see is the headlight.

So you need a light which can direct light onto your working plane but will not direct bright light into your eyes.

I'm not sure how much your husband can realistically see but something like this will give lots of light for not too much money.

These would need mains electric with a flex attached and some means of fixing them to the tent roof.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/battens/cat3640003

You may find simple fluorescent cheaper than LED. Your not interested in low power consumption just for camping.

Of course they may be tricky to transport.

If you do go for fluorescent I would suggest you use T8 lamps rather than T5. T8 are 1 inch diameter and T5 5/8ths of an inch.
T5 tend to need to warm up before giving full light and don't light up very well at low temperatures. T8 will be much better.

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Hi Navver

Thanks for your info our plan is for my husband to place his chair so light is behind him hopefully shining on his book although he only had 2 % of his sight left (like looking down the centre of a biro) he loves to read even though it takes him a long time to read. Our problem is space for transporting tent etc to site because once you put a large guide dog and his food, bed etc that’s a lot of space gone before you can blink. Since I started this thread we have found outdoor revolution do a system called Lumi-link tube light kit which on the internet looks perfect 3 tubes which connect to each other don’t take up much space when packed but only problem is even the outdoor revolution could not tell me what the linens or output watts were which seems odd surely they should know !!

Hopefully something will get sorted before next season.


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22/10/2019 at 9:25pm
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Thanks Jane, so he doesnt need it to be particularly bright.
Commercial lamps and light fittings quote technical data like lumen output, colour rendering, colour temperature, photometric data etc all of which we use to select the correct fittings and quantities and positions etc.

As the Lumi-link tube lights are aimed at the general public very few would know what it was so I'm not surprised companies selling it dont know what it is.

60 lumens per watt is a reasonable output for LEDs.

However, as it is a tube, the light will come out in all directions so not much will shine onto his book. Also, if the light strip is 5m long, the 900 lumens will be distributed along that length.

I think you need more of a point source light so it will all be behind him shining on his book. In our caravan there are two LED downlights at the front which shine down as reading lights. They are quite good.

Something like this might do:

https://www.downlights.co.uk/bathroom-led-spotlights-ip44-forum-milan.html

Perhaps you could fix it to a small piece of wood with hooks to the tent frame and may be better to have two spaced out so its not so shadowy.

Obviously you would still need general lighting in the tent which may be the light tube type.


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Hi, yes, a led strip light is perfect for cars and any terrain lighting because it is easily portable. You can turn them off simply because their connection and installation are very simple.


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Quote: Originally posted by MaeReeves on 24/3/2022
Hi, yes, a led strip light is perfect for cars and any terrain lighting because it is easily portable. You can turn them off simply because their connection and installation are very simple.

Hi, yes, a led strip light is perfect for cars and any terrain lighting because it is easily portable. You can turn them off simply because their connection and installation are very simple. I recommend using a 12 watt LED light for camping as it is bright enough, and you will miss it. By the way, it is best to order on Amazon or eBay. It is advisable to pay attention to the company VONT because I recently bought several LED strips from this company on the advice of a friend and was surprised that for such small money you can get a high-quality LED strip...



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