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06/3/2020 at 6:01pm
 Location: nr Derby
 Outfit: Phoenix 440+
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Asking for my son. He's looking to buy a trailer for his camping gear. No specific budget (as yet). His basic gear is a bell tent (5metre diameter) a table top fridge, camp kitchen gas cylinder, cooker and Full size Cadac plus 5 pump up mattresses and bedding. Enough room in the car for clothing I think. Any make/type to avoid? Is a hard cover useful? Wheel size? Amy thing to look out for really - he may buy second hand but I doubt it!   His car is a 7 seat Tiguan tow barr already fitted Thanks in advance of any advice.

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07/3/2020 at 10:16am
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When I was looking for a trailer back in 2009, my basic requirements were “A” Frame design, 13” Wheels and ABS Lid.

Size would only be limited by my £800 budget at the time, helped buy the fact that VAT had been reduced to 15% for that year only.

I purchased new, doing the two card credit card trick, which gave me 12 months interest free, so that worked out at £68 per month with the 2.5% fee factored in.

I still have the trailer, which is still in fantastic condition.

The “A” Frame design is handy as it allowed me to easily add a Trailer Tongue Box, which I keep the two CampinGaz 907 gas cylinders in, along with various tools etc.

Also having a roof rack that was included with the trailer was also very handy as I also added a 520lt Fiamma UltraBox 3.

Check out Red Cap Garage at Blackburn, as they are the main U.K. importer of Lider Trailers, and they were doing some great bundle deals on the Lider Saragos which included extension panels and ABS Lid, a lot of trailer for the money.


08/3/2020 at 1:27pm
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Thank you Francais - I passed that on - it's helped focus his mind amongst all the ones he's seen. I await a decision or loan request!!!

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24/3/2020 at 6:27pm
 Location: Hampshire
 Outfit: Outwell Montana 6P tent
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We have 'been through' several trailers all bought second hand by Mr Frazzle.

Our current one has large wheels which makes it a breeze when zooming down the autoroutes (following the speed limit) and also zooming at 60mph over here.

Sorry I don't remember the large wheel size. Happy to measure them after dinner is done as the trailer lives in the garage.


24/3/2020 at 6:45pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Frazzle- on 24/3/2020
We have 'been through' several trailers all bought second hand by Mr Frazzle.

Our current one has large wheels which makes it a breeze when zooming down the autoroutes (following the speed limit) and also zooming at 60mph over here.

Sorry I don't remember the large wheel size. Happy to measure them after dinner is done as the trailer lives in the garage.



He's settled on 13" wheels, A-frame and lockable lid with roof bars - trouble is now he can't out to look at one and he can't use one anyway. Thanks for the reply.

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24/3/2020 at 7:39pm
 Location: Hampshire
 Outfit: Outwell Montana 6P tent
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It might be worth his while window shopping (on line) now and then when we start get back to normal to have some fun shopping time and visit a couple of trailer places. That way you can see the quality of the trailers and compare them rather than just the pics and recommendations from people on here.


24/3/2020 at 9:12pm
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Yep jaiash, the Lider Saragos does represent excellent value, but to be fair the Lider Box Van Trailer 39920 does look to be a very interesting bit of kit, none braked so gross of 750kg if the car can cope with that, and the meagre load capacity off 392kg should suit most campers, as kit tends to be mostly bulk over weight.

But at double the cost of the Lider Saragos, it would be a serious investment, and for the same money I priced up the SARIS DV135 which is about the same size, but being braked has a load capacity of 920kg, which is more than even the most ardent camper would ever need, although the SARIS would have to be bought in Holland, as there are no dealers that I am aware of here in the U.K.

Total weight of our camping kit is around 400kg, with 325kg of that going in our Lider Alicante trailer, 75kg goes in the car.


via mobile 25/3/2020 at 10:47pm
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That’s the same list of requirements I ended up with when buying a trailer last year, I ended up buying a used Anssems GT750 211HT, it is a brilliant trailer.

I invested in something that would last as I planned to keep it for the next 5 years but a problem with our car recently means we got rid of it and have now upgraded to a VW Transporter so I will be selling the trailer. They are excellent trailers though and I would highly recommend them, extremely versatile and sturdy.


02/4/2020 at 12:20pm
 Location: Cheshire
 Outfit: De Waard Lepelaar & Kleine Burgemeeste
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My top tip for trailers is DO NOT put a tent in them. Especially not an expensive one. Pretty much everything else is fine, but not the tent.

Trailers bounce a lot. Even decent ones with dampers. All that up and down movement causes the stuff inside to move even if just a little bit. We've got rub marks down the side off our table, cool-box and storage boxes where they have rubbed against each other or the sides of the trailer.

On a long journey, that kind of movement could go through the tent storage bag and start damaging the tent, especially if you pack it next to something with a sharper edge like a cooker or a folded chair.

My canvas goes in the car. Child in the trailer if necessary

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02/4/2020 at 2:53pm
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Yep, with you on that reggiewac, our tent goes in the car, I learned the hard way with the mini oven though, that did not survive the 1,100 mile journey in the trailer on the way to the campsite at a Frejus, so I ended up chucking it in the bin, and bought a replacement €30 larger model from carrefour, which now gets daily use in the kitchen at home.


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via mobile 02/4/2020 at 2:59pm
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Quite right, our tent always goes in the car. It is a heavy air tent so I wanted it sitting directly over the car axle and not in the trailer. Good point about rubbing when inside the trailer, it’s not a problem we’ve ever had but it is true that items in the trailer have a far bumpier ride than the car.

With that said we carry 5 bikes on top of our trailer and bikes tend to make any wobble very obvious because they are so tall but they are pretty stable apart from on the worst UK roads.


05/4/2020 at 8:37pm
 Location: Hampshire
 Outfit: Outwell Montana 6P tent
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Oddly enough we are the opposite.

We have the tent in the trailer, over the axel, with tent ext, poles, king poles, EHU & cables, roll mats, SIM/air bed, kitchen shelves, table, chairs, hob, gas bottle, crabbing kit, buckets and spades, balls, body boards etc.

In the car is cool box, food box, utility box (plastic crockery, utensils for cooking, chopping boards, sharp knives, cutlary, medicines, washing & washing up kit, pans etc), sleeping bags, clothes for us all, waterproofs for all but packed separately incase needed.

Most items in a trailer go across it from wheel to wheel. A few other items are packed front to back. However Mr F bags everything so less rubbing. Our electric hob is in its original cardboard box, our gas 2 burner hob is in a large thick fabric bag that has a velcro fastening. Our gas bottle sits on its own rubber mat to stop wobbling and possible noise. Although I know all this I'm not qualified to pack the (my) car or the trailer.



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