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29/6/2020 at 9:05pm
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Hi everyone :)

To say I'm a novice at this is an understatement!

We have never been camping nor really considered it but given the crazy world we are currently living in I have informed my husband that the only way we'll go on hols this year is under canvas! Our 12 year old is very excited!

We have a tent (courtesy of my sister) thank goodness.

My hubby has always been anti camping (I've tried before) and we've always either gone abroad or in a caravan (static) so it will be a bit of a culture shock for all of us. We have air beds but what else should we be looking at buying to make the experience pleasurable and hopefully something we will continue.

We are potentially looking at Shell Island (when it opens) so i know there are no electric hook ups there (generator?), I have been googling for days so thought I'd ask the experts!

Thoughts please!!!

Clair



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no generators allowed on shell island, and from years of experience there do not pitch your tent sea facing! in fact as you go thr security turn right, go along the high leyllandi hedge and turn right again, this is the most sheltered field on the island, and when the wind will get up you will thank me for telling you this. as for the other stuff, you need something to cook on/in, take your pans from home, a decent cool box to store food in, nearest half decent shops are in barmouth or Porthmadog, you need your bedding. take your stuff off your bed with you. and what ever you don't forget to take crab fishing gear for your son, and last of all make sure you have seen a copy of the tide times before setting off from home, or it could be a long wait to cross


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Shell Island is fab for kids, although it can get quite busy and sometimes noisy, choose your spot well away from any groups when you get there ( you can drive around for ages looking for the perfect pitch )

Enjoy!

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What about nantycol falls campsite? About 3 miles up the mountain. Quieter, on mountain stream with waterfall, electric pitches, sheltered and can still go to shell island as a day visitor. Used to go to shell regularly up until about 12 years ago but it’s now just TOO popular. Having said that haven’t been to nantcol for a few years since getting caravan.


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Camping is like having a series of picnics while sleeping overnight at the same location. You'll be facing whatever the weather throws at you so you'll need everything from swimwear to full warm and waterproof clothing.

Get your son a sleeping bag, you can use the double bed duvets first time.

Depending on whether you intend to make the odd cup of tea, heat up quick meals or have full 4 course dinners at camp, decide what level of camping stove you need. Use pots and pans from home first time, don't take your best china, unbreakable mugs and plates help.

The ice packs in your cool box will last a couple of days, the campsite may let you refreeze them but expect to go shopping for fresh food daily.

It's dark at night, you will each need a personal torch and it helps to have a group lamp. You probably have torches at home already, if not you can keep them for power cuts.

You can survive without tables and chairs, a camping stool is a step up but lacks back support. Cheap chairs are lightweight but get uncomfortable after a while. Expensive, padded, super camping chairs are available and amazing but cost a bomb and fill up your car. You can always use camping chairs in the garden so it's your choice.

Whatever you do or don't take you will forget something essential, you should expect this, if you can't do without it don't begrudge buying a new one locally.

After your camp decide what worked and what went wrong, you now have until your next camping trip to search the camping shops for the camping specific kit that will make all the difference.



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01/7/2020 at 9:31am
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Hi Clair

How exciting! I am uploading a picture of my camping checklist (obviously it is my list of my stuff ... you might not want/need any/all of this, but it is a good start. Warning: I like my kit, you can get away with a lot less).

Okay, as a (very) seasoned camper here is my advice for the first time. I was in exactly the same position as you 7 years ago. Reluctant partner, child (she was only 3 though) not much money. I had camped as a child and a student and used to love it. Remembered campfires, the sides of lochs, serenity, being in the great outdoors, being woken up by sheep. But with a non-camping partner and a 3 year old I thought I'd better not just pitch up in a farmers field. I found what I thought was a fab deal ... Haven at Filey ... it had a pool, arcade, restaurant etc so I thought it would satisfy everyone and it was a deal, 5 days for not much money. It was awful. I mean really awful. And satisfied no one. It was soooo bad (massive extended family groups drinking heavily, feral kids (not in a good way ... mine runs free on a campsite with whatever pack of kids she meets at the playpark but she wouldn't cause anyone any trouble, swear, vandalise etc), an apparent curfew which was not upheld. This was not the camping I remembered. It was sooo bad we left 2 days early.

So I have no idea what Shell Island is like - but it looks mahoosive and I wonder for your first trip you might want something a little smaller. The joy of camping is the kids will generally make friends in the park pretty quickly or over a football or a campfire. If the place is too big, it's hard for them to connect with the same kids a couple of times or to find them again just by pitching up at the park. I understand the pull of attractions but actually the best times we have had are on small sites with woods, a beach, a river.

Could you possibly go away for a weekend before you head off on the big trip? Pick a small site close to home and have a trial run. See what you all connect with.

On the matter of electricity - everyone has their own list of essentials. I like no electric because then there are no screens (or very little) tempting my now 10 year old. We have a 12v pump for the blow up chairs - we ditched blow up mattresses for the self-inflating ones a while ago. And charge phones etc in the car so we can call home etc but that's it My friend loves electric and brings a coffee machine, kettle, vacuum. I am about to have my first caravan holiday and am a bit overwhelmed at having electric!

So anyway, my reply is long but here are some final tips.
* have at least as many blankets/covers under you as over you on an airbed
* if it is cold at night, get into jammies with loads of layers on top early, put hot water bottles into the sleeping bags early. Once you get cold you stay cold.
* don't leave any food (ok maybe tins) out of the tent at night by the coast - seagulls will peck through crisp packets. I once woke to 10 bags of popcorn strewn around.
* take proper camping chairs - you'll get bored of lying on the ground.
* think about where you are going to cook if it rains
* take wetsuits (or at least for your child) so you can go to the beach on a rainy/cloudy day
* earplugs/masks/lip balm/hand cream/first aid kit
* snacks/drinks to hand for right after putting tent up

Have fun!


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01/7/2020 at 8:33pm
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Thank you all for taking the time to come back to me!

katymg - that is my sort of list - love it!!

Wish me luck...


18/7/2020 at 1:00pm
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if using airbeds, take thin foam mats and one of those quitled bottom bedfitted bed covers for over them, air mattresses make you cold if used with only a sleeping bag as you are basically sleeping on cold air


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Webmaster has posted elsewhere that Shell Island is NOT opening this year at all.

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2024 = 20 sites / 41 nights. 2023 = 9/23. 2022 = 13/35. 2021 = 11/29. 2020 = 4/20. 2019 = 13/35. 2018 = 20/33. 2017 = 10/22. 2016 = 19/33. 2015 = 15 sites / 27 nights. Didn't count 1976 to 2014.


19/7/2020 at 12:33am
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Hiya Clair

I used to hate camping when I was a child because of the so many issues and misery but when I became a single mum, I knew this was the only holiday I would be able to afford in the summer hols so started looking into it and pulled the plug and bought tonnes of stuff - now I really really love it. The tent and things you buy can really make a huge difference.

I know you're borrowing your sister's tent but this is what makes the biggest difference to me. I need space so large front room for rainy days and nights, much taller than me so I can stand up and a separate bedroom. I think the most important aspect to me would be a sewn in groundsheet with mesh windows/doors like mine so absolutely nothing crawls or flies in and not a drop of water inside either. I've have seen many families new to camping turn up in rubbishy tents they've borrowed or picked up cheaply and they end up leaving early and miserable as they ended up wet and annoyed at everything swearing at each other that they'll never do it again - which is a shame as they might have enjoyed it with better stuff.

Also beds are important to me and my older mum as both would have back issues etc (plus I have really miserable memories of inflatables on tent floors) so I have a camp bed with self inflating mattress on top and it's really comfy and warm as you're not on the floor - plus your suitcase can go under the bed and out of the way.

The rest I'm more flexible with but I also have a tent carpet (so it's nice inside and no mud as you have to take your shoes off at the door), really good light that's really bright and works for days off batteries, a good table, a double stove perhaps so you can cook two things at once, a really good ice box that keeps ice for 3+ days so I always have milk for my cup of tea and so on. Pretty much all my cookware and melamine plates/knifes and forks came from pound land and there's nothing wrong with any of it years later.

Oh and a dressing gown for the cold nights plus a few spare cheap primark fleece blankets just in case.

We go without electric as nice to take a break - we have power banks that can be recharged at most the sites we go to so we can always keep our mobile phones etc running although I also use a non light style ereader which lasts a ridiculous amount of time before needing to be charged again. We play games and read and go out for walks etc instead.

I used to do caravan sites and the reality is that my tent set up is barely distinguishable from the caravans apart from the electric I suppose (and possibly the dad snorers that occasionally pitch up next to you ).

My friend also hates camping and prefers more upmarket super yachts and luxury hotel style trips but I persuaded her once and she said she can live with sleeping in my tent as it wasn't that bad

I also agree with the other poster - I do actually much prefer simpler smaller camp sites (near a beach) without all the extras like pools with strict rules on behaviour as you avoid the worst people (and the worst of the toilets) and my daughter can run around it as she likes with nice kids with a lot more freedom. One we stay at regularly is on a farm with not much more than one field where she goes to feed the farm animals every morning with a petting park and just a simple play park and a tree swing - she's just so happy running around with the other kids and I would not be able to allow her to do that at the larger parks. Another one I stay at is also a farm with an amazing farm shop and cafe and the farmer will take you to see the cows etc but is also very small. Both have amazing shower/toilet blocks

I hope you have a great time and that it goes well for you

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Wynnster Eagle 6 tent also but never used as too big for most sites we've been too and were too happy with our other tent.

Plus a SunnCamp Breton 500 Deluxe for shorter camping trips which we bought at the end of 2019 but have yet to use it due to lockdown!


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22/7/2020 at 7:09pm
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Clair - did you find another site? Just seen that She’ll island definitely not opening this year. Hope you’ve found something else.

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Take a look at the Caravan and camping site information about carbon monoxide poisoning. Even taking a dying bbq in your tent can kill you. Hope you have many wonderful safe trips.


26/7/2020 at 4:53pm
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So - we have our first camping trip under our belts and I can honestly say that it's one of the best holidays we've ever had!
We went to Heathfield Farm in Freshwater on the Isle of Wight which lived up to all the reviews and was made even better as our eldest (who is in the Navy) could come.
We ended up buying a better tent on ebay and I'm so glad we did as it made it feel like a real home.
There were a few things missing from our trip to make it perfect and I'm slowly working my way through the list.
We would love some of the textoline recliners but will never have the space as they don't collapse enough - any recommendations? Are moon chairs as comfortable as they look?
Also, our plug in coolbox wasn't adequate with the weather being so warm and now I know we'll definitely go again I'm willing to invest in a proper camping fridge. I can't imagine us ever going without eletric hook up so should I be looking at 3 way or compressor?
Thank you for all your advice!

Clair



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