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Subject Topic: Has anybo?dy used a towbar platform Post Reply Post New Topic
25/4/2021 at 3:21pm
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Hi All,

I just wondered if anybody had used a towbar platform for their tent.

We are looking at upgrading our tent to an air tent but having looked the pack sizes are quite large. We have a Qashqai which is usually rammed to the rafters including the roof box.

The tent we are looking at would simply not fit in the car with all our other camping gear and the kids. The pack size is 93x58x67cm and it weights 53kg.

My husband is adamant that he does not want a trailer. He does not like the idea of towing one and also we would have an issue storing it. I have seen trailer platforms that look like they may be a good compromise as easier to store.

I have seen the bak rak ones that look like they would work the thule easybase looks good but only good for 45kg load.

So I guess my question is has anyone used one, if so which one and how did you find it.

Any help would be much appreciated


25/4/2021 at 3:45pm
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Welcome to the forum RebeccaH

Back in 2008 we got the Thule 900 Backup Box, as we already had the Thule 902 Bike
carrier which the Backup box was designed to clip onto.

We loaded it up with our 57kg tent, and set off to the South of France for three weeks.

The problem was not really with the backup box, it was the rest of our 350kg load of kit being in the car, steering was vague and the rear wheels of the car had almost disappeared out of view up into the rear wheel arches of the car, the car was a 18 plate firms VW TDi Golf.

Another issue with these load carriers that use a base which clamps onto the tow ball, is that they are right on the load limit for a clamp on solution, so you can find that they move and tilt of there own accord, also dropping the base to gain access to the rear of the car, can be quite a faff, with a fully loaded box.

We sold the backup box to someone on here when we returned, and then bought a trailer, the rest they say is history, photo in gallery.

As for storage I used to store my trailer at a local storage firm, they had indoor storage for household stuff, and outdoor storage in the form of shipping containers, they would store small trailers like mine on top of the shipping containers, the trailers were secured with ratchet straps.

They would just use the forklift to get the trailers on and off the containers, storage cost was around £2 per week.



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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 25/4/2021
Another issue with these load carriers that use a base which clamps onto the tow ball, is that they are right on the load limit for a clamp on solution, so you can find that they move and tilt of there own accord, also dropping the base to gain access to the rear of the car, can be quite a faff, with a fully loaded box.



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I totally agree. We used a Thule BackUp box on an appropriate Thule cycle carrier (I think there were only 2 models it would fit) instead of the Easybase. It was claimed the cycle rack mechanism made it easier to fit than the cheaper Easybase and easier to tilt (to gain access to the boot).

The rack with the box on used to tilt quite worryingly in transit, no matter how much it was adjusted onto the tow ball. We also had to scrabble about on the floor to reach under the rack to tilt it in order to open the rear door of the car (we used it with a Shogun Sport then a Volvo estate). We got rid of it after 2 stressful seasons and bought a trailer.

So, my verdict was: great in theory but a faffy and stressful experience in practice.

Carrying a heavy tent on a supposedly less-manageable Easybase (and exceeding the maximum load capacity) is just asking for trouble, IMHO.


26/4/2021 at 8:57am
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Yep lidds0, seems like you had a very similar experience to that of mine, although one camping trip with the Backup Box was enough for me, still got the Thule Euroclassic 902 bike carrier though.

Rather than a system that clamps around the tow ball, it would be better if the tow ball flange/swan neck was removed, and was replaced with a semi rigid support that can allow for tilting, it would probably have to be some kind of hydraulic device.

I am surprised such a device has not already come to market, especially for use with BEV’s as it has already been proved with the Tesla M3 that carrying a load on the rear of the car, improves range over that of using a roofbox.


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Id go for a trailer - many can be stored on end so wont take up THAT much more space than a box. Much of the time when you tow a trailer with say a 40kg nose weight that weight is either heavier or lighter but the overall length balances it out - I'm wrong, obviously, but I cant see the sense in having a gurt big heavy box hanging off the back of your car. With the roof box AND the box on the back you are really messing with the centre of gravity of the car.

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Car stuffed full plus roof box full - maybe you’re taking too much with you? If you have a dog, using a crate frees up space in the boot & you can put stuff on top too. Or get a bigger roof box?
I’d support the short trailer idea, handy for taking garden refuse to the tip as well. Our tip has a tight limit on trailer length, so I’d check if you have that too.

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I’ve gone down the same road by packing the car to the gunnels, finding extra space in an enormous roof box, hanging extra bits of the 4 bike carrier on the back and camped this way for a few years. I used to be the same and wanted to avoid a trailer because of the extra hassle and cost on ferries. But then I stopped to think about the total weight and realised I was probably about 150kg overloaded.

I bought a trailer which solved the overweight issue by spreading the load on to another axle and it made packing for camping so easy having all the extra space. Far less stressful.

Before adding another place on your car to carry weight I would recommend doing the sums to work out if you’re actually overloaded. You need to find out the kerb weight of your car then add in an estimate for all your kit, bike carriers etc. and the weight of the people and a tank of fuel at 80kg. It is very easy to overload, you don’t want to cause an accident or find that you’re driving uninsured.


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We have a Bak-Rak on the back of our panel van that we use to carry my tricycle which weighs about 25kg but have used it to transport other items as well.

It fits on the tow ball with a clamshell bracket that is quick and easy to put on and take off. We only use it when we are carrying the tricycle the rest of the time we either take it off completely or leave it on the van but secure it in a vertical position so that it doesn't stick out at the back.

We find it very stable so long as the load is secure. Obviously the handling is affected less on a campervan than it would be on a car but we have had no handling problems.

There is a lot of info on the Bak0Rak site and I'm sure they would advise you on the suitability for your car.


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Hi All,

Thank you for the advice.

The tent we are looking to buy is quite big and heavy and the preference would be to carry it within the car but it takes most of the boot (although to be fair so did the hartford xl we are upgrading from).

We have invested in a larger roof option but opted for a bag over hardbox.

Also I'm going to refresh my jenga packing skills and hope we can get it all in 😄


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Back in 2019 due to a change of company car policy, we could not use the trailer, so we had to cram everything into a brand new Ford Kuga, luckily we also had a Kamie Husky XXL 510lt roofbox.

We set of on the 1,100 mile journey to our campsite down on the Cote d Azur, to be fair it was fine, especially not having to tow.

But I really did miss not having the trailer, we could not get everything back in the car when it was time to return, so we left behind a couple of 25lt water carriers behind at the campsite.

There are just the two of us, but we take a lot of kit, so hopefully we will get to use the trailer again next year.




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