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11/12/2022 at 8:06pm
 Location: North East
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Hi all and merry xmas.
I have recently bought a bailey unicorn seville 3 2015 model and was thinking of buying an awning, but which one.
Please can anyone advise what they use.
Cheers


11/12/2022 at 10:08pm
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You will get better recommendations if you can say how you are likely to be using it.

You need to give this careful thought. If you will always need to use it as extra living space and are happy to spend the time putting it up, taking it down, extra weight - then consider a larger one.

If you are just going away weekends and just want a small porch or canopy which can be quickly put up and taken down then a smaller one might be better for you.




via mobile 12/12/2022 at 5:53am
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We've had several caravans over the years and several types and makes of awning. We preferred the Isabella awnings with Carbon X poles. Now eye-wateringly expensive new but decent used ones can be found.


via mobile 12/12/2022 at 9:17am
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I agree with Liddso regarding Isabella awnings. We have two of them, a full caravan length 3m wide one when the family visit us on site. The second one is 2.5m wide and not full length if it's just the two of us.


via mobile 12/12/2022 at 9:34am
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We have an old Dorema full awning which was extended to fit a Pegasus back in 2010. Its faded but still good so we cannot fault it's quality.
That is used on long stays mainly in summer.It has removable panels so good when it's hot. This makes it lighter to put up! It is in 2 big bags but has alloy poles.
We also have a Kampa Rally Pro 260 used for shorter stays, early and later in the year. Its big enough to sit in and store stuff. Also good quality.
It has steel and fibre poles and is pretty light and compact.

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12/12/2022 at 1:00pm
 Location: London
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Several factors to consider with an awning, some already mentioned, no two people seem to have exactly the same needs/expectations from their awnings:
1) What do you want to use it for? Sitting out/dining space, storage space, wet outdoor clothes/boots changing, cleaning up the mucky dog/kids space before letting in van!
2) Have you got transport space and weight capacity to transport? Some awnings are very heavy and bulky, so much so they may push your transport options too far and not fit, AND can be a struggle to handle when packed in their bags. Air awnings in particular are notorious for being heavy and bulky especially in their larger sizes as they are in a single storage bag, poled awnings are often split into two slightly more manageable bags! Awning weight is such that if transported in the van they generally MUST go directly over the axle if not to upset the tow handling!
3) Have you got anywhere to dry the size of awning you are considering? Like tents, awnings MUST be perfectly dry before longer term storage! Inevitably at some point you will find you will have to leave a camp site with the awning still wet, and you can only leave it packed wet for a day or so before it will start to go mouldy (generally no recovering from mould, the stains and fabric damage are permanent), so you need drying space at home - awnings are not self supporting like a tent and rarely can they be erected to dry without the van, spread out on the ground, hung over a washing line (if strong enough for the weight!) or spread out and regularly turned in a garage are the usual methods!
4) If you are looking at porch awnings, are you prepared to have a side wall go over a window or locker door? Some people will not tolerate having a window or locker out of action because the awning obstructs it! A awning wall running over a window or locker door will be more draughty because of gaps than one running down a plain flat wall! - I don't find it an issue, others do! Allowing for or avoiding a wall crossing a window/locker may dictate what size options are open to you!
5) How able bodied are you, and do you have competent assistance? Many awnings require a degree of strength and dexterity, as well as assistance. Air awnings, weight aside can often be a single person job, poles often require two people!

With my van I use a heavy Kampa 330 air porch awning (with bedroom extension when required) for longer stays. For shorter stays and when I'm certain it will be wet on departure, I use a smaller lighter Sunncamp 260 single poled porch awning. They get used as a sitting out/dining area, storage area, wet/muddy clothes/boots changing/drying area and most importantly for me, somewhere to clean up the dog before she goes in the van. Many people find an awning too much trouble to bother with, personally I find it near essential especially in bad weather, but then I live a outdoor activities lifestyle with a mucky dog in tow!


12/12/2022 at 3:54pm
 Location: North East
 Outfit: Bailey Unicorn
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Thanks for all of the replies, I am looking for a full size awning for summer use and as an extra bedroom for family.
My caravan is a 2 berth. I have a large garage for drying if the awning gets wet.
My wife and I are both able bodied so that will not be a problem.
Baileys state that the awning I need is 950cm which I believe is a size 10.
Is it possible to use a slightly smaller or larger awning.


via mobile 12/12/2022 at 4:07pm
 Location: Herts. UK
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We use an annex occasionally, we attach ours to the rear end of either awning, as it sticks out the back, it does not take up any internal space in the awning.
With regard to awning size I would suggest sticking to the manufactures recommended size. If you get a shorter one, the problem comes when you pitch up on a hilly pitch, if the land falls away from the van you could end up with a gap where the awning meets the land. Conversely with a too long awning you could end up with too much skirt to tuck under the ground sheet. The pegging positions on the Isabella are around the bottom edge where the panels meet the skirt.


12/12/2022 at 4:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by tonyv8power on 12/12/2022
With regard to awning size I would suggest sticking to the manufactures recommended size. If you get a shorter one, the problem comes when you pitch up on a hilly pitch, if the land falls away from the van you could end up with a gap where the awning meets the land. Conversely with a too long awning you could end up with too much skirt to tuck under the ground sheet.




This all depends on the orientation of the pitch. If its falling away opposite the door, just about any awning will suffer, as the depth is often a lot less than the width. If its sloping to one end, yes, a longer awning will have too much or not enough, depending.
To be honest, a bit of research prior to booking should steer you away from the possibility of this happening. Personally, i wouldnt do more than a night on a badly sloping pitch. And if i thought i could do better that day elsewhere, i'd drive away.


12/12/2022 at 4:59pm
 Location: Lichfield
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Quote: Originally posted by Bill Reeves on 12/12/2022
Thanks for all of the replies, I am looking for a full size awning for summer use and as an extra bedroom for family.
My caravan is a 2 berth. I have a large garage for drying if the awning gets wet.
My wife and I are both able bodied so that will not be a problem.
Baileys state that the awning I need is 950cm which I believe is a size 10.
Is it possible to use a slightly smaller or larger awning.




That all depends on the manufacturer as to what size it is as each one applies their own size respectively as a 950 cms. awning may be a size 10 in a Dorema brand but could well be a different size in another brand. If the handbook says 950 cms. than that's the measurement you need to adhere to and ignore the awning size. If you want to know the actual size of a particular brand then you need to visit each website independently to see what size they have applied to that overall measurement. It has been known for people to go by the size only to find out that they have made an expensive mistake.








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