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30/5/2005 at 9:06am
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Is it worth recharging these or just buy new ones?

If it's worth it...where do I take it

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how about castorama? they have nice, small, cheap ones.


30/5/2005 at 11:01am
 Location: Zoetermeer Holland
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Depends on the type of extinguisher you have. Most smallish ones are to be replaced. The better ones are refillable and a refill is cheaper than buying new. Again, it totally depends on the one you have bought.
Normally at the place where you bought, you should be able to get a refill. There are also firms specialised in firefighting stuff. they also refill.
I have a hunch that if you don't know, you bought a replacable one at a car- or camping or caravanshop. In that case: replace.

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01/6/2005 at 10:46am
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Can anyone suggest somewhere to buy local.. i.e. not a specialist camping shop.

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01/6/2005 at 11:19am
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B&Q have general purpose fire extinguishers for about £13


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01/6/2005 at 11:23am
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Quote: Originally posted by stackridge on 01/06/2005
B&Q have general purpose fire extinguishers for about £13
Thanks will pop round.. didn't have a clue where to start!

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02/6/2005 at 9:36am
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Take at least one with a 2kgs filling. The 1 kgs ones are not enough, they are just a toy and not capable of anything serious.


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02/6/2005 at 9:54am
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We`ve got a small one in the car because it`s a legal requirement in France.

I can`t imagine it being much use in a tent fire though. I keep a fire blanket in the cooking box, and a fire bucket outside the tent. Yes, passing dogs occasionally have a drink out of it, but I don`t mind.



02/6/2005 at 10:04am
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> I can`t imagine it being much use in a tent fire though. <

Maybe not in a tent fire, but it certainly does help for e.g. a cooking fire; smother it before it develops into tent- or caravanfire.
Extinguishers in general are designed just to extinguish a starting fire, not for a full blown fire. You need heavier capacity for that.

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02/6/2005 at 1:32pm
 Location: Glasgow
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Make sure you get the right extinguisher and that you know haw to use it, what its limitations are and what the resultant effects of the extinguisher will be.  Here are some points about fighting fires and each of the main extinquisher types.

The Triangle of Fire.  Fire needs three elements to exist.

1 Fuel (solids, liguids or gases)

2 Heat (various materials will spontaneously combust a different temperatures) although ather surces af ignition acn trigger a fire, the heat of which will then be self sustaining.

3 Oxygen (you need oxygen to burn with the fuel, some fuels have their own source of oxygen eg plastic explosives)

remove any one of the above elements and the fire can not live.  Different extiguishers work by removing different elements of the fire.

Water suitable for category A fires (Paper wood and textiles) NOT FOR ELECTIRCAL FIRES.  Extinguishes fires by removing the heat element.  The standard 9 litre (the size most commonly found in workplaces) water extinguishers will last for about 60 seconds.  The jet of water will spray about 10 feet.

CO2 (carbon dioxide) suitable for category B fires (flammable liquids) and electrical fires.  Using a CO2 extinguisher will put out the fire by depriving the fire of oxygen.  If you are in an enclosed space like a tent or a caravan it will quickly replace all the oxygen in that space, this means you will not be able to breath.  Never spray onto bare skin as this will cause a frostbite burn.  Never hold the nozle or base of the extinguisher as these will also getr extremely cold and can cause frostbite burns.  A standard 2kg size (size found in an office) will last for 8 seconds.

ABC Powder (Dry Powder)  Suitable for category A (Paper wood and textiles), B (Flamable liquids), C (Flammable gases) electrical fires and vehicle protection.  Works by removing the oxygen, smothers the fire.  The powder is an irritant and will cause problems for people with dermatitis (spelling?) and breathing problems such as bronchitus or asthma.  If using in an enclosed space the powder will not disperse and can cause visibility problems and breathing problems.

Foam Spray suitable for category A (paper wood and textiles) and B (Flammable liquids) and vehicle protection. this works in much the same way as a water extinguisher but has a foaming agent added which effectively makes the water wetter.  this also has the added bonus of making the extinguisher capable of smothering a fire (removing the oxygen) aswell as cooling the fire.  Because it foams, it increases the surface area of the water, this makes it much more effective at cooling the fire.

Halon (green canister) these are now illegal although they were very good extinguishers they were very harmful to teh environment.

None of these extinguishers are suitable for cooking oils and deep fat frier fires.  these require the use of a fire blanket, or a wet chemical extinguisher.  DO NOT PUT WATER ON A COOKING FAT FIRE.  I'm sure you've all seen the very scary consequenses of this.

My personal preferance would be for the Foam Spray, not suitable for electric fires but then i don't have EHU.



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06/6/2005 at 7:18pm
 Location: Carmarthenshire Wales
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Personally I don't like fire buckets. The natural reaction is to chuck the whole lot at the fire, which will probably have the effect of scattering any loose, burning items and thus spreading the fire more. If you do use one, try to project the water against a vertical surface so that it will run down onto the fire.Far better to use a spray of some sort or dunk the fire in the water (Rarely practical).

Always direct your efforts towards the seat of the fire and remember that you can only provide first aid with the equipment you have. Get everyone out safely and try to prevent it spreading to other units. If it gets anywhere near your gas bottles GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE.



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06/6/2005 at 9:23pm
 Location: Surrey
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We keep a 2kg Kidde ABC extinguisher in the van and a fire bucket up by the hitch.  C&CC and Conway owners club have it as a requirement on their rallies.

Keep a check on the "best before" or "use by" date on the fire extinguisher. Most I have seen are good for 5 years and then need to be replaced or recharged.

Usual rule re tackling fires, raise the alarm, get everyone safe, then attack fire if safe to do so.



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