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PersonSox258
24/6/2024 at 11:22am
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Has anyone used coated steel garden stakes to erect/support windbreaks as opposed to the wooden stakes they come with?

Simlar to these: https://www.toolstation.com/garden-stake/p28564

Or any other suggestions....I find the wooden ones difficult to put in hard ground, and also remove! :)

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Personoldham
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These stakes need to be 1/3 underground giving you a 3ft high windbreak, would that be enough.

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PersonFiona W
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Our windbreak has poles like tent poles - aluminium with a rounded spike on the bottom. Easy to push in & pull out of the ground. But each has to be guyed.

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you could buy an air poled windbreaker! although if it where us the guy lines would drive us nuts


PersonMonty15
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On a particularly 'rock hard' campsite of our acquaintance where the 'grass' areas notoriously bend rock pegs, a friend uses a masonry bit in a hammer power drill to pre drill holes for EVERYTHING that goes into the ground, including wind breaks with wooden poles! I use an iron bar hammered in with a club hammer to form a 'pre-insertion' hole for pegs and poles. We have found watering the ground first (watering can, just where the holes are needed, about 5-10 mins beforehand) to soften soil works well for BOTH insertion and withdrawal of pegs/poles.

Not sure the garden stakes would work well, most gardens that have cultivated beds have quite soft broken up soil, so lots of 'sticks' can just be pushed in by hand! Not sure those stakes are robust, they are VERY thin walled tubing and won't withstand much clouting with a hammer/mallet! If the ground is that hard, it'll probably also strip the plastic coating off the steel tube inner!


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PersonFiona W
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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 24/6/2024
you could buy an air poled windbreaker! although if it where us the guy lines would drive us nuts


Saw one of these on a site. It seemed to stand-alone ok, minimal guys, but it was enormously bulky when it got packed up. Might just have been that model, of course.

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We have the Jormax system which uses metal poles, however on occasions I use a masonry bit to drill a pilot hole when the ground is extremely hard or compacted.


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Thanks all, food for thought on those suggestions, much appreciated x


PersonVirsec
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We use 40cm tubes made out of old curtain rods. Knock half in the ground and put wind break poles in the other half. Works a treat.


PersonBramston
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These stakes appear to be rebar coated in plastic.
Rebar or steel reinforcing bar is heavy and naturally rusty, you are going to have to hit them with a steel hammer to drive them into the ground and then the plastic coating is going to peel off, you'll then get flakes of rust dropping off in your house and car and rust stains on anything they touch.
You are unlikely to enjoy lugging your heavy and rust stained windbreak from the car to the campsite. You will then commence pile driving the steel poles into the ground with the sound of a construction site. Everyone on the campsite or beach will be staring at you with frowns of annoyance for spoiling their peaceful quiet day. One good point is that people immediately near you may move away (or go home) giving you more space but the suspicion that you are a social pariah!

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no , not rebar at all, if you look at the 4th image on the tool station link, they are 11mm thin walled tube coated in plastic mainly used for staking up plants.
not up to the job of a windbreak in my opinion

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PersonMARK96
28/7/2024 at 10:36pm
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i got one of those poles in my garden, think its been used as a runner bean stick, its not robust at all..i wouldn't use..


PersonSox258
10/8/2024 at 3:02pm
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UPDATE:
I've purchased a few of these, on testing in the garden it seems like they'll be a lot easier for me :)

From Ebay Parasol Base Spike Beach Garden Umbrella Holder Adjustable Patio Ground Stand

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404987795381?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&_trkparms=ispr=1&amdata=enc:1M0_3bvGLQeaWiZEElfsQjQ33&customid=EAIaIQobChMI5IDyusrqhwMVJaiDBx2ThDszEAQYASABEgLa2fD_BwE



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