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25/7/2024 at 11:38pm
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Hi!

New members here - Ashleigh (Dad), Rachel (Mum), Matthew (18yr old son) and Lola (3yr old Golden Retriever), based in South West and haven't camped in a very long time! We are heading away for a week in August, and just sourcing our necessities and accessories. We would be really grateful if we could run our thoughts/ideas by you more seasoned professionals! In an ideal world, we'd take everything and the kitchen sink (Rachel is very fond of home comforts!) but we're definitely going to struggle to fit everything in the car even with just the essentials!!

To give you an overview of our trip:

We're staying at Parbola Holiday Park in Cornwall, on an electric pitch. We have a Soneva Airbeam 550XL 2023 tent.

Is there such a thing as 'rentals' on equipment? In the US, they have a bunch of companies who hire things out like fridges, cots, wheelchairs etc - anything basically! I wonder if there's a way we could hire the things we can't fit in the car?

We won't be eating at our tent that much as we'll be out exploring for most days. We intend to have cereal for breakfast each morning but are wondering about getting one of those 2-ring gas cookers or electric hobs (the latter is probably easiest for us) so we can have bacon sandwiches, scrambled eggs, baked beans on toast etc. Question 1 - is there a particularly good or recommended brand for this? Question 2 - given space is at a premium, are there any collapsible or space-saving saucepans griddle pans? Question 3 - can bread be toasted using an electric hob (and how)?

Our plan for the food itself, given that we don't have room for a cooler, is to use a good coolbag (the type you get in Tesco etc) and each evening, buy the food for the next morning plus a bag of ice from the supermarket. We'll repeat this each night. Question 4 - any hope of this working?

Because of the space issue with the car, we're not taking a table or cupboard unit. We'll keep our clothes in our holdall, we're not intending to dress smart so this will be fine. Question 5 - is there a particularly good way to store toiletries? Do each of you have washbags and take those when you go to the shower block etc. Question 6 - where do you put those in the tent while you are there? Naturally we tend to have places for everything but obviously camping is about chilling and not being neurotic, so what is the best way do that without having the entire tent turn into a mess?

SO excited to go camping, we're really enjoying the preparation and anticipation for what it will be like when we are there! Thank you to anyone who reads this and double thank you to anyone who also replies, lol!

Ashleigh, Rachel, Matthew and Lola



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get yourself some of those vacumme bags and anything such as sleeping bags, clothes, towels,

no we dont have our own wash bags, save space and buy your food shopping once your there

answer to question 6 leave the kids at home! the tent will stay tidyish then


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It’s been quite a few years since we have tent camped but here are a few of my thoughts.

We used to have one of these single burner gas stoves that clip onto a small campingaz cartridge to enable us to cook bacon and scrambled eggs etc as you suggest. They take up very little room and despite their small size, a single cartridge would last us ages. You could make toast by holding it over the gas flame on this but you would need to be very careful. Single burner attachment

We used to use a rigid cool box like this one coolbox and many sites offer an ice pack freezing service either for a small cost or they just have a campers freezer somewhere where you can freeze your own ice packs. You need twice as many ice packs, as one lot will always be in the freezer while the other lot will be in use. Check with your site to see what they offer. We upgraded to an electric coolbox at some stage which looks the same but has a cooler built into the lid and it worked well as long as it wasn’t too hot outside as it only cools to a certain number of degrees below the ambient temperature so if it gets up to 30 inside your tent, it will not be cool inside the coolbox so we supplemented it with ice packs on really hot days.

We have those cheap gymsacs that we use as a wash bag like these. We have a different colour each so we don’t head off to the showers with the wrong one.

Good luck with your camping adventure, I’m sure you will have a great time.


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You'll need to ask the site about renting stuff though it's not common in the UK apart from maybe barbecues/fire-pits.
I would absolutely squeeze in some sort of table. Cooking/making tea/coffee on the ground gets stale very quickly. (Or do pitches have a picnic table? Their website is very uninformative.)
Any camping shop will sell you a set of nesting pans etc. Or Amazon have loads.
Do you have friends who might lend you some camping kit?
If you use electric hobs/kettles etc you'll have to be a bit careful about what you have switched on at any given time.

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Don't forget you can also keep stuff in the car, assuming it's not far from your pitch. If you can park next to your tent, even better. We always kept clothes in a holdall in the car, also toiletries in their own bag. Just have clothing for immediate use in the tent. Make sure laundry is refolded and packed away, it takes up a lot more space than clean clothes...We packed all camping equipment in large plastic tubs, separate for each category, so cooking utensils, tableware, foodstuffs etc. Just lift out and bring in the one you need. Brewing stuff was in a separate smaller tub, gas ring, kettle, mugs, T bags etc.
In the early days we used a coolbag with a couple of plastic bottles of frozen water, then you can drink the water as it thaws. Then we abandoned that and just shopped every day. Even in the heat of the South of France we coped, but didn't take spreads or expect to drink icy drinks.


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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 great suggestion! Maybe I could leave both boys and just have a girly trip with me and Lola the dog!


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Quote: Originally posted by Pixie_Hez on 26/7/2024
It’s been quite a few years since we have tent camped but here are a few of my thoughts.

We used to have one of these single burner gas stoves that clip onto a small campingaz cartridge to enable us to cook bacon and scrambled eggs etc as you suggest. They take up very little room and despite their small size, a single cartridge would last us ages. You could make toast by holding it over the gas flame on this but you would need to be very careful. Single burner attachment

We used to use a rigid cool box like this one coolbox and many sites offer an ice pack freezing service either for a small cost or they just have a campers freezer somewhere where you can freeze your own ice packs. You need twice as many ice packs, as one lot will always be in the freezer while the other lot will be in use. Check with your site to see what they offer. We upgraded to an electric coolbox at some stage which looks the same but has a cooler built into the lid and it worked well as long as it wasn’t too hot outside as it only cools to a certain number of degrees below the ambient temperature so if it gets up to 30 inside your tent, it will not be cool inside the coolbox so we supplemented it with ice packs on really hot days.

We have those cheap gymsacs that we use as a wash bag like these. We have a different colour each so we don’t head off to the showers with the wrong one.

Good luck with your camping adventure, I’m sure you will have a great time.




Love the bag idea, thank you 🤩

Thank you for the idea of the single burner thing - will look into it 🤩


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Quote: Originally posted by seanfdh on 26/7/2024
You'll need to ask the site about renting stuff though it's not common in the UK apart from maybe barbecues/fire-pits.
I would absolutely squeeze in some sort of table. Cooking/making tea/coffee on the ground gets stale very quickly. (Or do pitches have a picnic table? Their website is very uninformative.)
Any camping shop will sell you a set of nesting pans etc. Or Amazon have loads.
Do you have friends who might lend you some camping kit?
If you use electric hobs/kettles etc you'll have to be a bit careful about what you have switched on at any given time.



Hi 👋 Thanks for your reply 😊

Great point about ground - I'll squeeze in a table!!!

'Nesting pans' - thank you! That's the magic search term that I had been missing! 😊

Will check with friends, great idea, thank you!

Good point about electric usage. Do campsites electric hookups have unlimited electric or is there a limit?

Thanks again


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Quote: Originally posted by franbee on 26/7/2024
Don't forget you can also keep stuff in the car, assuming it's not far from your pitch. If you can park next to your tent, even better. We always kept clothes in a holdall in the car, also toiletries in their own bag. Just have clothing for immediate use in the tent. Make sure laundry is refolded and packed away, it takes up a lot more space than clean clothes...We packed all camping equipment in large plastic tubs, separate for each category, so cooking utensils, tableware, foodstuffs etc. Just lift out and bring in the one you need. Brewing stuff was in a separate smaller tub, gas ring, kettle, mugs, T bags etc.
In the early days we used a coolbag with a couple of plastic bottles of frozen water, then you can drink the water as it thaws. Then we abandoned that and just shopped every day. Even in the heat of the South of France we coped, but didn't take spreads or expect to drink icy drinks.



Thanks for your reply!

I hadn't even thought about using the car as storage, what an excellent idea!! Our tent is massive but given everything will be on the ground, it will look cluttered quickly!

👍 re the cool bag etc - frozen water bottles sound very clever. Wonder if the site can freeze stuff - I'm going to email them!


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re the supply of electric, yes sites do control the useage amounts, but not in the way you may think, i.e. get to 5 kilowatts and it goes off, what they do is limit the number of amps, generally speaking for tents its 10 amps as that is all your rcd/cable can handle, 10 amps is 2400 watts, so say you took your kettle and a fan heater if you look on the bottom of the kettle is will say how many watts it uses same with the heater, generally the kettle will be 2000w and a fan heater 1500w, which means that one of them has to be turned off, so like on a morning you get up and its a bit chilly, so you put the heater on, fine, but then you want the kettle going on so now you have to turn off the heater for the time the kettle takes to boil. and the more items you are running from the ehu, the more you have to check the total wattage or your neighbours wont be happy if you trip the power from the bollard

pans - outwell make pans with silicone sides, you can even get a kettle like that too, so they all go as flat as possible, cant say how the pans work but ive used a kettle one and that was fine.

if you get a hard sided cool box and have a chest freezer, then a couple of days before you go put the cool box inside it, to get it as cold as possible and start putting some food in it,

and lastly when packing your car, remember the first thing you need out of the car is the tent, so that has to be the last thing you put in the car, unless you want to unpack the total contents of your boot on a soggy raining site!


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Campsite electric hookups are normally a set rate per day. Some may be metered, but the site will tell you.
The hookup will probably be 10 amp or maybe 15. We have a caravan which runs quite happily on 10amps. Fridge, battery charger plus water heater. If its cold we have to watch what we put on together if the heating is on high.
You can get a mains kit for tents. A lead with safety cut out( rcd) couple of sockets and maybe a light.

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Marg is spot on re the packing, tent always goes in last and comes out first. If you have the packing space, try not to just pile stuff up, if you can remove items without getting everything else out that's good. For instance, chairs and brew kit for when you arrive.

Something else we find very useful are the blue IKEA tote bags, 50p. They are great for taking to the showers, just big enough for a change of clothes, towel and toiletry bag, and are waterproof, so can tolerate splashes.


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Thank you, that's useful to know and keep in mind 😊


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It's usually something mundane and everyday that you forget, like a corkscrew or tin opener! Check lists (and ticking off items as you pack them!) are your best friend, EVEN when you are old hands at it, tripping over the dog, the unexpected phone call etc. will put packing the ESSENTIALS right out of your mind even when that was the very thing you were about to do!
https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/advice/camping-tips/checklist/
https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/view.asp?id=7

NEVER assume there will be bog roll or soap in camp site toilet, there may well be, but not when you are desperately in need! - take your own.

Showers can be a challenge! - they vary from the luxurious and well thought out to the just about functional! Missing hooks on doors can leave you with the conundrum of how do you keep cloths and towel dry!- A water proof bag is the answer (even a bin bag will do). Footwear that can easily be slipped on and off and doesn't matter if it gets wet is a godsend, Crocs, flip-flops etc., nothing worse than fighting a pair of tight fitting lace up shoes on or off when standing on one foot in a puddle! If it's a coin in slot/paid shower, ensure LOTS of change available!

Don't forget to pack for the dog! Grooming stuff to be rid of all the seed heads etc they pick up (I've got a dog - I KNOW!) and you don't want in the tent. Towels to dry, it WILL find somewhere to get soaking wet! Dog shampoo (I use ordinary Baby Shampoo for my mutt) to wash off the manky dead seagull/fox/badger it rolled in! Poo bags galore, and stuffed in EVERY pocket of EVERY item of clothing you own, they WILL go where not wanted/expected, and you WILL be expected to clear up!

You'll regret not having a table! Food prep on the ground is a pain, literally in the back and knees if kneeling, plus it'll get full of grass and dirt and every creepy crawly will want to trek through it on the way to somewhere even if it doesn't think you're trying to feed it!

Keeping bugs out of stored food can be 'fun' (NOT!), sealed containers (Tupperware, old ice cream containers etc.) for anything that appeals to bugs can be essential. Hanging food in bags off the ground can help a lot. Ants can be the biggest pest if you're unfortunate enough with your pitch.

A decent cool bag and fresh ice everyday for freshly purchased produce should work, but things like milk, butter, cheese etc. tend to last several days (quantity wise), but may not survive well in just a coolbag in a hot tent! Be prepared to bin them before fully used!

I'm not aware of rental equipment for campers, but then I've never looked, as well equiped myself, don't recall ever hearing anyone say they've hired equipment, although vague idea some sites rent out ice blocks. The other extreme, tales on UKS recently of a site no longer freezing campers own iceblocks on H & S grounds!

A fair selection of 'collapsible', stacking really, cooking pots and pans available from most camping outlets. There are also literally collapsible kettles, washing up bowls, collanders, buckets, dish drying racks etc. That can make packing the car a lot easier.

A trick to packing camping gear is 'dont transport fresh air!' - stuff things into empty spaces, tea towels and scourers etc. stuff inside pots and mugs etc. Don't over cater and take 3 months worth or washing up liquid in a jumbo bottle, decant into smaller container with just sufficient for your stay etc. And it often pays to decant cooking oil etc. from the usual flimsy flip top bottle into something smaller and more robust with a tight fitting screw cap, spilt fluids in transit/store can make more mess and reach places you just can't imagine!

You'll survive, and even laugh, at the 'adventure' you had regardless of what you forgot or did wrong, all part of camping. .... it may take a few months before you laugh, and the never again pledge has faded from memory! ... but you will laugh! Have a great time.


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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 26/7/2024
It's usually something mundane and everyday that you forget, like a corkscrew or tin opener! Check lists (and ticking off items as you pack them!) are your best friend, EVEN when you are old hands at it, tripping over the dog, the unexpected phone call etc. will put packing the ESSENTIALS right out of your mind even when that was the very thing you were about to do!
https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/advice/camping-tips/checklist/
https://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/view.asp?id=7

NEVER assume there will be bog roll or soap in camp site toilet, there may well be, but not when you are desperately in need! - take your own.

Showers can be a challenge! - they vary from the luxurious and well thought out to the just about functional! Missing hooks on doors can leave you with the conundrum of how do you keep cloths and towel dry!- A water proof bag is the answer (even a bin bag will do). Footwear that can easily be slipped on and off and doesn't matter if it gets wet is a godsend, Crocs, flip-flops etc., nothing worse than fighting a pair of tight fitting lace up shoes on or off when standing on one foot in a puddle! If it's a coin in slot/paid shower, ensure LOTS of change available!

Don't forget to pack for the dog! Grooming stuff to be rid of all the seed heads etc they pick up (I've got a dog - I KNOW!) and you don't want in the tent. Towels to dry, it WILL find somewhere to get soaking wet! Dog shampoo (I use ordinary Baby Shampoo for my mutt) to wash off the manky dead seagull/fox/badger it rolled in! Poo bags galore, and stuffed in EVERY pocket of EVERY item of clothing you own, they WILL go where not wanted/expected, and you WILL be expected to clear up!

You'll regret not having a table! Food prep on the ground is a pain, literally in the back and knees if kneeling, plus it'll get full of grass and dirt and every creepy crawly will want to trek through it on the way to somewhere even if it doesn't think you're trying to feed it!

Keeping bugs out of stored food can be 'fun' (NOT!), sealed containers (Tupperware, old ice cream containers etc.) for anything that appeals to bugs can be essential. Hanging food in bags off the ground can help a lot. Ants can be the biggest pest if you're unfortunate enough with your pitch.

A decent cool bag and fresh ice everyday for freshly purchased produce should work, but things like milk, butter, cheese etc. tend to last several days (quantity wise), but may not survive well in just a coolbag in a hot tent! Be prepared to bin them before fully used!

I'm not aware of rental equipment for campers, but then I've never looked, as well equiped myself, don't recall ever hearing anyone say they've hired equipment, although vague idea some sites rent out ice blocks. The other extreme, tales on UKS recently of a site no longer freezing campers own iceblocks on H & S grounds!

A fair selection of 'collapsible', stacking really, cooking pots and pans available from most camping outlets. There are also literally collapsible kettles, washing up bowls, collanders, buckets, dish drying racks etc. That can make packing the car a lot easier.

A trick to packing camping gear is 'dont transport fresh air!' - stuff things into empty spaces, tea towels and scourers etc. stuff inside pots and mugs etc. Don't over cater and take 3 months worth or washing up liquid in a jumbo bottle, decant into smaller container with just sufficient for your stay etc. And it often pays to decant cooking oil etc. from the usual flimsy flip top bottle into something smaller and more robust with a tight fitting screw cap, spilt fluids in transit/store can make more mess and reach places you just can't imagine!

You'll survive, and even laugh, at the 'adventure' you had regardless of what you forgot or did wrong, all part of camping. .... it may take a few months before you laugh, and the never again pledge has faded from memory! ... but you will laugh! Have a great time.



Thank you SO much - this was amazing to read through, and I've added all these notes to my list/planner. Love the idea of hanging the food, and will definitely keep it all well-sealed!!

I love your philosophy on it all and will keep your last paragraph in mind throughout our adventure!!

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