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05/10/2005 at 2:22pm
 Location: Wigan
 Outfit: 1989 compass
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Hi everyone,
      We've only had our caravan a couple of months and me the (snob) who didn't want one loves it, much to the families glee. We went away last weekend though and it was really cold. It's an old van and only has a little gas heater, to be honest you get more heat by lighting the gas hob. Someone's suggested that we buy a little electic portable heater as obviously the gas ones are all using our gas bottle up and the electric is free on sites. Problem is what sort to get. I know nothing about amps etc and wouldn't want to blow a fuse but obviously we need enough warmth to get us through our 1/2 term October break and bonfire weekend break. Both kids have asthma so the gas fumes are not always a good thing there.
Thanks for any advice in advance

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With love Donna xx


05/10/2005 at 2:37pm
 Location: Co. Antrim
 Outfit: Bailey Pegasus Milan & Terracan
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The halogen ones use up to about 1200w and give a nice warm glow. Or how about a small fan heater to quickly blow the warm air around. However if you want heat throughout the night a small sealed radiator type might be best.

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Al






05/10/2005 at 2:47pm
 Location: Essex
 Outfit: Vermont L Nebraska XL and Montana 4 6
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I would second the Halogen.  Not only does it keep you warm but creates a nice glow in the evenings. Its really nice sitting there with the light off and the heater on.

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05/10/2005 at 3:00pm
 Location: Wigan
 Outfit: 1989 compass
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I use a halogen at work and they are warm, thanks. I would prefer one that can be left on during the night though as we all woke up cold in the middle of the night, is there a certain output that you have to use though?

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05/10/2005 at 3:03pm
 Location: Essex
 Outfit: Vermont L Nebraska XL and Montana 4 6
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We leave our on all night during cold nights and thats in a tent.  If it falls over, then the trip switch on the bottom cuts it off.  It really depends whether the light bothers you or not.

Oil filled seems to be the choice on here for night time heating.  Never used one and the only exposure I have had of one was one that leaked all over the place.



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05/10/2005 at 3:10pm
 Location: Co. Antrim
 Outfit: Bailey Pegasus Milan & Terracan
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How about something like this. Max output of 1000w which should be ok for most sites.

http://www.4air.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/103234839/pname/HOF5-1-kW-Oil-filled-radiator-5-Fins/google/kelkoo



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05/10/2005 at 3:15pm
 Location: NW of Glasgow
 Outfit: Sterling Searcher 2008 Volvo XC90
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I would look for a fan heater that allows you to select the power setting ( maybe 1kw or 2 kw )  and the fan speed,has a thermostat, and is quiet in use.  An oil filled type would be silent but also very heavy.  The cheap fan heaters are usually quite noisey so you may have to pay a bit more for a quiet one.  Dimplex is a good make, not sure how noisey they are though.


05/10/2005 at 3:43pm
 Location: Co. Antrim
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Although I have left my caravans built in heater and fan on overnight I would be reluctant to leave a plug in one on. Someone is bound to spill something into it or drop an item of clothing or blanket over it. Same goes for the halogen heater, and the fact the light from it would keep me awake!

It's probably just me being cautious but i would feel safer with the radiator even though they weigh a bit more!



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05/10/2005 at 4:36pm
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 Outfit: http: www.arcsystems.biz
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The gas hobs should never be an option for heating the van due to the possibility of releasing carbon monoxide, however because they also release water vapour some would see this as an advantage.The gas fire should be roomed sealed and will if properly serviced be perfectly safe to use 24/7, it should also be more than capable of heating the van.

What I have found is late 80's early 90's vans have excessive low level ventilation, roof ventilation is always excessive so without restricting the amount at floor level turning up the heat whether gas or electric only increases the speed of hot air rising out the top and being replaced by cold at your feet so theres no way the van can get warm.

In the mid 90's the rules were changed requiring a minimum hole size of 1500mm square or just 4" X 5/8" at floor level and a minimum of ten times this at high level, one standard 400x400mm skylight carries this much fixed ventilation when shut. I found on one van the door vent was twice the minimum alone and this van, (not counting gas drop holes),  had five holes in the floor as well!!. Blocking off some of these floor holes allowed the van to quickly become warm on a freezing cold day for the owner said the first time since new.

It's got to be remembered that these are minimums and for a van 12 to 18 foot in length Also if one single supply at floor level was blocked there could be a problem so some extra must be allowed elsewhere and not rely on a single source. When calculating you must measure the little holes in the vent and multiply by the number of holes to get the correct total size and not just the hole size the vent covers.



05/10/2005 at 8:10pm
 Location: Shropshire North Wales borders
 Outfit: Adria Win
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If you go electric, we've always found convector heaters best because they don't blind you or make any noise and they're not heavy, although they take up a bit more room than an oil-filled.

Good ones have a thermostat and cut out if knocked over. A 2kw one can be run off a 10 amp EHU providing you don't try to boil the kettle. make toast, dry your hair etc without turning it off first.



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05/10/2005 at 8:49pm
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I recently got an oil filled heater from argos 400w, not heavy at all, about £40, keeps us nice and toasty at night.

Tony



05/10/2005 at 9:29pm
 Location: Zoetermeer Holland
 Outfit: Chateau 430 Nice
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Apart from the gas heater I have a small fan heater, destined for camping. I can be switched to 500W or 1000W and has a trip switch against falling over.
With 500W it works already on 4 Amps EHU. 1000W would too, but I have to watch the boiler, which does 300W too.
As soon as the site has 6 Amps EHU I can also use the 1000W.
In fact so far also in late autumn with frost outside the 500W setting easily did the job.

Why a fan heater: because it spreads the heat better than other types of heater. Yes you can hear it a bit, but the circulation wins for me. If put on the ground (in the corner near the fixed bed, where noone walks), it even keeps my feet warm, spreading the heat alongside the floor.
This summer in Sweden I left it on one night on a low setting in the awning when my sons friend was ill, when returning from Finland. He really was cold and the nights than were very cold. I listened specifically and it only needed to work once every 10 to 15 minutes or so for just a few minutes. It did the job perfectly, spreading enough heat to keep the cold out and to keep it dry. In the morning the guy felt much better.

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05/10/2005 at 10:01pm
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Yes, a fan heater worked for us, before we had blown -air heating in the van. It warmed everything up very quickly, could be left on overnight and, providing it was not turned up full-blast, never caused any problem with site supplies. Moreover, they are very cheap to buy and can be used at home when needed.



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