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18/2/2007 at 10:30am
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Hello

Last yeare we went down to the South of France with our Bailey Pageant, and I stupidly stored 4 bikes in the van as we travelled.  The problem was that the van was full every time we stopped & the odd scratch in the van.

I'm pulling with a Honda CR-V.

What's the best way to get 3 or 4 bikes ( & Van) down to the South of France this year?

Replies appreciated

Thanks

Geraint

 

 



18/2/2007 at 10:57am
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Pushbikes? Can't you have them on the roof of your car? Or two or three on the roof and one on the back of the car?


18/2/2007 at 11:06am
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Get yourslef a roof mounted system then you don't need worry they are going to catch the bikes on caravan while you are towing

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18/2/2007 at 12:47pm
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Hi, i agree with the roof mounts, We have a 4x4 with the spare wheel on the back door and use a spare wheel mounted carrier when solo, But when towing this restricts turning as they would hit the van, Towbar mounted is also not suitable as i have a detachable towbar but the wheel would be in the way anyway. So its a roof mount system, They are quite good and secure if you get one that locks.

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18/2/2007 at 3:09pm
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Just a daft thought ,do ferry companys charge for the extra hight if you put them on your roof ?if so why dont you carry them down and over the channel in your van, then put them on the roof when you get to France , there for it is empty when you stop on your journey.   may be a daft idea 


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18/2/2007 at 3:52pm
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Why not buy a bike rack for the rear of the caravanvan - My Dad has one that holds up to four bikes - I think it made by Fiamma - We've used it loads  - frees up space in the van.



18/2/2007 at 3:53pm
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Whoops - problem with spelling caravan it my last post


18/2/2007 at 5:32pm
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well mr rees

what you could do is ride one of the bikes youself, let mrs rees drive the crv and fold down the back seats to put the oher bikes in

otherwise just do what i will have to do this year which is put all four on the roof on roof bar mounted bike carriers. two facing foward and two facing backwards

ps apologies this is in lower case but i am holding a 6 week old baby in one hand!

regards to all



18/2/2007 at 6:23pm
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We've just bought a Maxx Raxx - it arrived on Friday and we set it up yesterday. It is a fantastic piece of kit and very obviously designed by someone who had a problem and set out to find a really good solution.

It's incredibly well designed and engineered. I can highly recommend it.

It mounts next to your towbar so allows you to tow as well - with four bikes you might need to check you've got enough clearance for turning.

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18/2/2007 at 6:37pm
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Roof for definate. Four bikes will weigh upwards of 120 lbs and if you put them inside the van you won`t be carrying much else. Also if you hang them off the back of the van they`ll unbalance it, surely?

Back racks? Well, we carry three bikes on a back towball mounted rack, but it`s still very tight clearance when we tow the trailer tent. For preference we use the roof rack on our estate car.



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20/2/2007 at 11:23pm
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We have one that fits to a plate at the back of the towball on the car (plate comes with rack) really easy to fit & remove & small to store. Got it from towsure last year for less than 30 quid


21/2/2007 at 12:11am
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30+lbs a bike??? 50+years ago my racing bike weighed in at 22lbs find it difficult enough these days to push 22lbs - I'd give up if I had to pedal 30+ lbs   Denis


21/2/2007 at 7:44am
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Quote: Originally posted by landsdowngolf on 21/2/2007


30+lbs a bike??? 50+years ago my racing bike weighed in at 22lbs find it difficult enough these days to push 22lbs - I'd give up if I had to pedal 30+ lbs   Denis

Ball park average for a Halfords "mountain" bike or hybrid, alas. Look at the catalogues if you need convincing. The reall killer is some of the Y-frame kids bikes...they can weigh even more. Cheap bikes=cheap materials=more material required to give them strength.

We both have touring/audax bikes (Mercian and Longstaff) and they touch the scales around 30lbs, what with 28 gear transmissions, mudguards and two racks on board. Plus 40 spoke wheels for my big Hubby, and he rides a 25" frame. Our rather elderly hybrids weigh a couple of pounds more. It`s not fair to compare the majority of even good quality tourers or hybrids  with a stripped down (single speed?) racer with best quality lightweight materials and 32 spoke racing wheels. Nowadays a class racing bike will almost float and come in at the 18lbs range. But I`d hate to take one out on a French towpath!

I don`t think most non-bikie people even consider how much their bikes weigh, either when buying or loading. (For the uninitiated, lighter bike=easier use, and it counts far more than you might think.) To hear of folk shoving 120-130lbs of bikes into their caravans, often on top of their carefully calculated payload I expect, makes me worried. Even the roof bars on cars have a maximum load weight, usually 70-100 kg. (In handbook.) Fill a roof box up to the maximum weight and even if it`s a half width one, you`d better not be putting your two heaviest bikes up there.

Easy way to find out the weight of your bike? Bathroom scales, weigh yourself, weigh yourself holding bike. If you ride a supermarket special, folks, be prepared to be amazed. There`s plent of bikes that top 40lbs out there.



21/2/2007 at 11:38am
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Quote: Originally posted by landsdowngolf on 21/2/2007
30+lbs a bike??? 50+years ago my racing bike weighed in at 22lbs find it difficult enough these days to push 22lbs - I'd give up if I had to pedal 30+ lbs   Denis

all bikes weigh 50lbs

for example

my ti litespeed is 16lb + lock(34lb) = 50lb

MTB from the tip is 45lb + lock(5lb) = 50 lb

 



21/2/2007 at 11:47am
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We too like Piglet have a MaxRax it is superb and you can't tell the bikes are on the back. It holds them very rigid. The system is a bit pricey though but we think it was worth every penny.

 



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We have bought folding bikes but not used them yet, hope they will be ok.



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