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Elizabeth & Mark, that would have been so nice but we have to go mid August. Alsac and the Black Forest sound great, this will be our first trip abroad in the van but Mark's an HGV and has driven all round Europe so no worry. Hope to catch you on a meet (i think you were trying to make new year at Church Farm but cant now). We go on many of the SW meets.

The Black Forest is lovely, we lived in Germany and camped there ( I was in the RAF)_Must go back sometime.

I saw some german registerd caravans in France  this summer, with 100kph stickerson the back-perhaps they have raised the limit from 80?

Of course that may have been for another country?

We had a little trailer when we lived there, and were supposed to do 80kph but did speed a bit!

Without it it was foot down and go!!! ( We had our tax-free sports car then!!)

Speedlimit is still at 80kph. U can get the 100 sticker if the trailer complys certain regulations. This needs confirmation by the office, which makes our TÜV (M.O.T) and only then do you get the sticker officially. (trailers in Germany have their own registrations, have to have an M.O.T and insurance)

In all that costs about 40 Euros, if I remember right. And I think I've seen a UK-registered car towing a caravan with the 100-sticker here along the river Neckar last year.

Wasn't worth it for us, as we 1. mostly tow our caravan outside Germany 2. always have plenty of time, when on holidays 3. the tyres must not be older then six years and our twin-axles are just six years old and look brand new

Markus

I'm off to Germany and Austria for the second time this winter.

I would definitely agree with the Belguim-Luxembourg route. It is fast, hassle free and no tolls!!!! France's toll roads may be quiet, but they work out expensive.

Although I'm not takng the caravan this year, I will still be going the same way.

thanks art, was asking about this site as it does look good and well situated.  will probably spend a few days before moving on to Black Forest. BTW your link didn't work.  So if anybody else is looking http://www.mairie-metz.fr/METZ/TOURISME/HEBERGE/METZ_CAMPING.html.