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01/3/2014 at 5:06pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bl03 on 01/3/2014
As above but as for question 2 if you don't mind an extra toll road the new tunnel under Paris A86 is very quiet and saves time as well as being a great experience. You are underground for about 10 to 15 kilometres.

But he can't take his caravan through a tunnel which in parts is only 2 metres high.


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Quote: Originally posted by OliverDay on 01/3/2014
Quote: Originally posted by michell8 on 01/3/2014
... from Rouen to Orleans theres some open dual carriageway but an awful lot of roundabouts & stop/start as well...


Between Rouen and south of Chartres there is slightly over 30 roundabouts / traffic lights in a route which is just over 100 miles. It is a lot of stop-start driving and turning - on average an 'obstacle' almost every 3 miles.

Ollie, I can't believe you have counted the roundabouts!  [;)]  We use that route all the time, and it's never occurred to me to even think about it.  I suppose the thing is we're just 'travelling', watching the world go by, rather than in a hurry to get somewhere, and to us traffic lights and roundabouts are not 'obstacles' but points of interest where we can watch the French at their most challenging!  Some French roundabouts are works of art, too, and we do have a 'vote' about our favourites at the end of a journey!  The overall winner at the moment is the one on the Ales by-pass, with the miniature Pont du Gard!  Second is the roundabout in Millau, which every year has more and more spectacular flower displays.



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Quote: Originally posted by Berriow on 01/3/2014
Quote: Originally posted by bl03 on 01/3/2014As above but as for question 2 if you don't mind an extra toll road the new tunnel under Paris A86 is very quiet and saves time as well as being a great experience. You are underground for about 10 to 15 kilometres.

But he can't take his caravan through a tunnel which in parts is only 2 metres high.


Isnt there a separate tunnel for caravans and wagons?


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I'm still reeling at the prospect of a tunnel that's only 2m in height!

If I can just extend the original thread somewhat:

We will be a group of three adults and one teenager plus two Labradors travelling, hopefully, in early August.

How long do you think it may take (realistically) to travel from Calais to the Montpellier area.

The single journey is roughly the return journey that we took from Kent to Cornwall last summer. Our return leg of that journey took around 7.5hrs, but that included a break of just over an hour at a service station on the M3.

I'm conscious of the amount of time that we will be stuck inside the car during the journey (especially for the dogs) so was working around maybe 5-6 hrs travelling each day with a nice break mid-way through the travelling day journey.

Where do you stop en-route to your overnight accommodation? Do the French have the equivalent of CL's? What restrictions are there on car + caravan parking up, if, for example, we broke the journey and wanted to explore a town on foot.

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How long to reach Montpellier? It's about 650 miles I think. Many people would make an early start from Calais and do that journey with one overnight stop.

We are old and would have two overnight stops - never pre-planned, but just picking camp sites from a site guide as we go along. We use the Caravan Club's Caravan Europe guide, but there are others. There are all maner of sites to choose from, large and small, but not CL's which are restricted to members only.

Exploring a town on foot is best done from a camp site - perhaps stop at 4pm and stroll into a small town for a drink or a meal. We do often divert off the main roads to stop in small towns or villages for lunch, but it sounds as though your caravan is bigger than ours, and perhaps you will be in more of a hurry to reach your destination than we are.

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Quote: Originally posted by Defender on 02/3/2014
I'm still reeling at the prospect of a tunnel that's only 2m in height!



The tunnel itself isn't 2 metres in height but it does have a height restriction which means no towing.

This video gives an idea of what it is like (the low tunnel is after about 3 minutes.) The amount of traffic shown is pretty representative too

We've used it at least 5 times in both directions now (last time just pre Christmas on the way to the Alps)and it is by far the easiest, quickest and least stressful route we've found round Paris. Just get on the A86 and stay on it by following the A86 signs until you come to your chosen exit south

Coming north we leave the A86 on the A15 then A115 N184 and onto the A16 - all dual carriageway

Ken



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Most towns have a municipal site, generally no thrills, very french with clean loos & showers and no need to book (arrive before 6pm. Very economical too. A lot of them have reviews on here.
http://www.camping-municipal.org/


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As pointed out just follow the signs that take you around Paris middle ring rd in a clockwise direction & you don't go anywhere near any tunnels.

However you have now changed your destination from Toulouse to Montpellier, if you are happy to pay tolls all the way you don't go anywhere near Paris.

From Calais, go autoroutes A26/A5/A6/A7/A9 past Reims, Dijon, Lyon etc. Its continuous toll motorway the whole route, there are campsites in any number of towns en route for your overnight stop.


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Quote: Originally posted by bl03 on 02/3/2014
Most towns have a municipal site, generally no thrills, very french with clean loos & showers and no need to book (arrive before 6pm. Very economical too. A lot of them have reviews on here.
http://www.camping-municipal.org/



I'm sure lots of people have had "thrills" on a municipal site!
I too would recommend them for stopovers and often longer stays also.


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Quote: Originally posted by Defender on 02/3/2014
How long do you think it may take (realistically) to travel from Calais to the Montpellier area.

Regards

Defender





We've done that same route twice to visit family in Montpellier, once one the motorbike and once in the car. Both times we did it in a single hit, with an early start as we got the 6am chunnel over.

We stopped off at interesting spots along the way which broke up the journey nicely, the two kids were with us in the car the second time we did it and they were fine.

However, on neither occasion were we towing anything so we were travelling reasonably quickly.

Plan on doing the same route this July when we go to visit again but this time will be towing a trailer tent, still plan on doing it in one hit to maximise the time in Montpellier but should imagine it will end up being quite a long day due to the reduced speeds.



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Quote: Originally posted by bofs on 02/3/2014
Quote: Originally posted by bl03 on 02/3/2014Most towns have a municipal site, generally no thrills, very french with clean loos & showers and no need to book (arrive before 6pm. Very economical too. A lot of them have reviews on here.http://www.camping-municipal.org/



I'm sure lots of people have had "thrills" on a municipal site!
I too would recommend them for stopovers and often longer stays also.



ooooo yes we have had many a thrill on a municipal!

I always recommend this book - fab for finding sites. Takes a little practice matching up the book to the map but once you get the hang of it, it is so easy. We just say 'oh let's stop in another hour' and we go from there. Only once did we have to try 3 sites before we found one (this was in the Loire).

Here is the campsite book, le guide oficiel etc:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Le-guide-officiel-camping-caravaning/dp/2358390313/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393778797&sr=8-1&keywords=le+guide+officiel+camping+caravanning


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Quote: Originally posted by bofs on 02/3/2014
Quote: Originally posted by bl03 on 02/3/2014Most towns have a municipal site, generally no thrills, very french with clean loos & showers and no need to book (arrive before 6pm. Very economical too. A lot of them have reviews on here.
http://www.camping-municipal.org/



I'm sure lots of people have had "thrills" on a municipal site!
I too would recommend them for stopovers and often longer stays also.



Thank you Bofs for making me smile!


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We've done Kent - Montpellier several times, different routes. The usual stop-off is Bourges, by way of Rouen/Chartres, or Paris outer rings if I fancy the excitement. (A good satnav and a printout thoroughly recommended for the latter.) In Bourges for about 4.30, with a 8.00 tunnel crossing. Then on to the South via Millau viaduct - my favourite journey in the world. The descent onto the Herault plain at Pas de l'Escalette needs to be taken slowly.

There is another route via Nevers; either via A86, or a long way round going on N-roads through Troyes - Auxerre (stopover at Municipal near football ground), which is a bit tiring and adds an hour. There is also the Rhone Valley route passing east of Lyon; but it's a bit of a haul on busy 6-lane autoroutes, though scenic enough.

Splitting the journey about halfway makes it a leisurely drive; the Massif Central is a great route - watch out for the Volcani cones around Clermont! Have a great holiday.



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