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Subject Topic: Overnight stops on the French aires
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24/8/2022 at 10:27pm
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Hi all.

Just got a 'new' second hand caravan. Want to go to to a site in south of portugal, ferry to santander or bilbao seems to be around 600£ while the dover calais crossing is £200

can anyone recommend a place about 8 hours south from the french ports that would have a drive in - drive out parking space on a service station along the motorway? to minimise parking / reversing etc while I'm not used to the setup. I would rather drive straight to south portugal in one straight (forward) line if possible at all...

thanks


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It’s 1350 miles. What time do you aim to set off from Calais? How many miles a day do you plan to drive? Which route are you taking? And is this for now or for mid winter?



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25/8/2022 at 1:04pm
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IMHO you are missing a few tricks there!

Do the sums, think you will find your fuel bill, stop over costs, road tolls etc, through France balance out similar to Spanish ferry costs, if not more expensive!

France is really not a country to be rushed through, it's got too much to offer to see it only as a means to an end! Plan the journey to ENJOY France as part of your adventure! Don't think you will be speeding through France either, speed limit enforcement is very strict these days and penalties harsh.

8 Hours driving immediately after a Dover-Calais crossing is a VERY LONG day travelling when you add the UK travelling/crossing time to it! Think a stopover nearer Calais would be far more enjoyable and relaxing. Towing a caravan is slightly harder work than driving a solo car, you really have to keep your spacial awareness levels much higher due to your limited visibility, and because it's a much slower, less nimble lumbering beast than a solo car, you have to do a LOT of careful anticipating of future manoeuvres. All the more so and compounded by driving on wrong side of the road, your view of the traffic when exiting slip roads onto main carriageway will be appalling with the caravan on the back!

I've done the Spanish ferry route a couple of times (with car, but not towing caravan), to get to the mountains of Northern Spain, and we found it a very relaxing mini cruise which is not to be dismissed as 'just a ferry crossing'.

If you think you can get to Portugal and back without having to reverse your caravan, good luck! We've never managed to get a 100 miles or so into France without having to reverse a trailer a couple of times at various stop offs! And lost count of how many times I've had to back up my caravan in UK on a journey! Think you would be wise to hone your skills a little before rushing off, probably REALLY worth investing in one of the club towing tuition courses to learn the skills NECESSARY to tow, there's quite a lot more to it than just being able to reverse!

Think you maybe should read the comments on French Aires/Service stations about overnight stopping on them too!

Plenty of potential there to turn what should be a very enjoyable trip into an expensive worry fest, or worse! It's the sort of road trip that should have countless enjoyable experiences, but I sense you risk skipping a lot of those with a dash to the end target only approach. It's just my opinion based on my values and experience, what suits you is for you to decide.


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As above, that journey is going to take at least 4 or 5 days.
You really need to check out speed limits in France. They are based on what your towing vehicle CAN tow and not what you are towing. For example, the limit for a Land Rover whilst towing is lower than, say,a Ford Escort.
You will be lucky to travel more than 300 miles in one day and that is if you choose to take the motorways.
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This might help explain what DaveS1 alluded to with respect to different cars and what they can tow/speeds.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/Practical/Transport/Make-sense-of-Towing-a-caravan-legally-in-France

I haven't ever driven towing but I think only you can decide how many hours a day you feel you would be able to drive. Suggesting 300 miles on a motorway suggests 5-6 hours driving (based on an ave of 50-60mph) which would be less than I'd feel able to do in a day with breaks. You may well feel the same hence your request for a stop about 8 hours in.

If you look for aires that have restaurants they often have HGV parking areas which would allow you to drive in/out but there might not be any availability. It's also not an infallible way to decide. Sorry.

You haven't given a route to allow people to give advice - the motorways you're aiming for might be helpful.

https://about-france.com/motorway-services.htm
https://www.wandering-bird.com/french-aires/


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Quote: Originally posted by comput1 on 24/8/2022
Hi all.

Just got a 'new' second hand caravan. Want to go to to a site in south of portugal, ferry to santander or bilbao seems to be around 600� while the dover calais crossing is �200

can anyone recommend a place about 8 hours south from the french ports that would have a drive in - drive out parking space on a service station along the motorway? to minimise parking / reversing etc while I'm not used to the setup. I would rather drive straight to south portugal in one straight (forward) line if possible at all...

thanks


To answer your question. 8 hours from Calais towing a caravan paying toll all the way on a clear road will get you to about Poitiers on the A10. From memory these services.https://www.vinci-autoroutes.com/fr/aires-et-services/a10/aire-de-poitiers-chince/ are large & modern. As mentioned though services do get very full of trucks but anywhere you can park will be drive in drive out provided you dont get blocked in.


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Took us over 7 hours to get from Calais to Pontorson in July (pre summer holidays) which was about 290 miles, we had stayed at a site near Dover the previous night and don’t mind admitting that it was a very long day including the ferry.

I would give serious consideration to just getting the Plymouth - Santander ferry as the fuel and toll charges would quite probably work out more going via Calais, I’d also say you would be looking at a minimum of two nights sleeping in France before you even get to Spain.

It’s a very long drive at 56mph!!


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I reckon if you did as you plan, ie that drive in one go, 8 hours and then repeat for the remainder of the trip it will take you about 3 days to get over it.



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We've done 6hr trips in the motorhome in France, and the same towing a caravan and I have to say even using tolls it's a slog - this year we did the former just to escape the oppressive heat in the Loire and get to the Normandy coast so it was worth it, but I would still avoid at all costs otherwise. We also did Swiss border to just outside Boulogne, not towing, in a Merc and a fiesta sport which took just over 8 hours plus a couple of short stops - never again ! It's meant to be enjoyable and a holiday ! I'd rather stay at cheaper campsites and try and get as good a deal on the tunnel (Tesco points perhaps) as possible if budget is a concern.

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Each to their own with regards to driving time.
Personally I love the drive, I look forward to the journey and count it as part of my hols.
I’ve just done Calais to St Raphael (South East, not South West I know. It’s approx 700 miles. I get a 6 am(ish) ferry on a Saturday, and drive. Regular stops for food, water and a refresh. Stop over night, get there Sunday around 3pm
That costs around £150 in tolls towing a caravan one way.
Diesel prices fluctuate quite a lot. cheapest was at 1.71 euros most expensive was at 1.98 euros. All cheaper than the UK at the time
I get approx 29 mpg when towing.
If you know your mpg then work out the cost v benefit.
Personally I prefer the driving, even when I’ve been to the south east.


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We regularly tow for 6 hours (occasionally 8), but swap drivers every 2 hours, with a short break. It works for us.

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We normally tow for 2 or 3 hours then take a break and swap drivers.
We aim to find a campsite around 3.30 to 4 pm.

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I find driving in France very relaxing and will do a 9 or 10 hour drive no problem, being an ex HGV driver I'm used to it and would do a 9 hour drive daily when I was working



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