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Subject Topic: Traffic fine Italy
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Personjsparkes201148
20/10/2022 at 10:21am
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Firstly, she was not aware of the offence. Apparently, it is very common for tourists to be caught out by these “ Restricted areas”. They are often poorly signed and you can be in one before you know it.
She no longer has the Credit card she used to pay for the Hire Car.
The fine demand came from the Netherlands, don’t know why.
There is a link to see photographic evidence, but just says “ not found”
I do have a very small doubt that it may not be genuine although it probably is.


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Ok , no photographic evidence then it cannot be proved and any court would certainly ask for such evidence.
Personally I would sit it out and see what materialises.


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Also why not contact the car hire company to see what they have to say ?
Could be they have no knowledge of it ?


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via mobile 27/10/2022 at 10:16am
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We have decided to do nothing and see what happens. Puzzling why the letter came from The Netherlands, our postman told me the delivery had not been recorded.


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When I worked in Italy and needed to come to the UK,the customs control always had notification of any tax or multe outstanding. These had to be cleared before you left the country, or if returning, cleared before entry.

This was before we joined the EU (when the Kaiser was but a wee lad) so might have now changed. It could catch you out if thinking of returning


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The other thing to be aware of is if the unpaid debt is sold to a debt agency (which happens on any uncollected debts) once they start adding their costs and charges the total can be several times the original amount.

If Italian debt is sold to a UK company they will pursue and rack up costs for doing so and yes it's legally allowable to sell an unpaid debt to an agency in the country where the debtor resides



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Just an update, we did not respond and have not heard any more.


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Whilst browsing for info on the upcoming ESS & EIATS schemes I came across this and it maybe worth your while to read it.

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/11/23/heres-why-you-should-always-pay-your-tr........


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Quote: Originally posted by Dot P on 28/10/2022
The other thing to be aware of is if the unpaid debt is sold to a debt agency (which happens on any uncollected debts) once they start adding their costs and charges the total can be several times the original amount.

If Italian debt is sold to a UK company they will pursue and rack up costs for doing so and yes it's legally allowable to sell an unpaid debt to an agency in the country where the debtor resides




Legally they cannot pursue you in the UK as the debt occurred in another country and they could find themselves on the wrong side of the law under the Harassment Act.

Also a few years ago there was a scam that originated in Italy regarding fines on hire cars and a friend almost got caught out with it. Hire company confirmed that they had not received any such notification of any driving offence. He never heard anything more.


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Also a few years ago there was a scam that originated in Italy regarding fines on hire cars and a friend almost got caught out with it. Hire company confirmed that they had not received any such notification of any driving offence. He never heard anything more.




That is why I suggested to the OP to contact the car hire firm.


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read this:
https://www.keithmichaels.co.uk/convicted-driver-car-insurance/info/guide-to-driving-offences-europe/
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