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23/9/2016 at 7:55am
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Having an app to locate the satellite is fine, but how you apply that so it aligns the dish to the satellite is another matter, advanced systems use a gps system that controls the Dish motor for both East to West or vice versa and elevation.
DiSEqC motors are in my mind a compromise, although fine in strong signal locations.
My reasoning is that with a DiSEqC motor, you do not have a Declination setting, as such, the actual arc that that is tracked flattens out near the top, and the Declination setting found on a true Polar Mount helps compensate for this.
Also unless you are using a seperate feed, the the feed from the LNB will suffer signal loss as it passes through the motor, again fine in strong signal situations, but any loss of signal no matter how small is bad for out f footprint reception.
And Skew, well back in the day, all motorised systems had adjustable Skew, either by Magnetic Polariser or Mechanical Polarotor.
The reason for having adjustable Skew, is due to the fact that as the Dish tracks the arc, the angle of Skew comming into the Feed Horn on the Dish, is not proportional to the geostationary position of the satellite.
In fact Skew can vary per Transponder on the same satellite, an extreme example is Horizontal and Vertical, as the Skew can be effected by frequency, again these small variances are less noticeable when there is an abundance of signal.
In fact satellite reception in it's purist form, would be to have a none Universal LNB for recieving a Single Polarity through a dedicated Feed Horn.
In fact back in the day all the French Analogue FTA channels used to be transmitted in the one Polarity, and of course in SECAM not PAL, from Telcom 2B at 5Deg West.
Of course only about 6 Channels, those were the days!
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24/9/2016 at 10:06am
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A lot of MotorHome owners find that there 85cm Oyster systems often don't get Astra2 Freesat channels whilst down on the Cote d Azur.
But they may well get say Sky News from Astra2 of course.
There was a lot of complaints about the automatic systems like the Oyster Dome systems as fitted to many motorhomes, no fault of the system, as the problem was brought about by the Astra2 satellite changes back in 2014.
In fact Oyster did have a disclaimer on there website, let's face it if you had paid £5000 or more so that you can watch Freesat whilst in Cannes or Benidorm etc then find out you can't when you get there you would be a little annoyed.
Personally I don't see it as a problem, if you can't get Astra2 you will always be able to get Astra1 or HotBird etc, handy for the Sky and CNN News but not much else in English of course.
Thankfully there is help on the horizon, no pun intended, SpaceX plan to launch 4000 satellites, that will cover the Earth with free Internet TX/RX than can be picked up with a flat 10" pizza box shape antenna anywhere.
Can't wait for that to happen, Freesat in Frejus from a 25cm antenna, happy days ahead me thinks!
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Yep, you and me both John.
Anyway in the meantime, if my six numbers come up, I will be buying a MotorHome c/w Oyster system, although it will have to be a 1.2m bespoke model !
Anyway back in the real world, check out the YouTube videos on the Oyster systems with auto Skew.
There is a small motor built into the LNB holder, which rotates the LNB in order to optimise Skew, very clever auto seeking system, but like any satellite system it still needs a clear line of sight to the Bird.
I have seen plenty of MotorHome and caravan folk with these expensive systems, not being able to use them due to tree shade, whilst my cheapo system, can and has been placed of pitch in order to get clear line of sight.
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Yep, it's great how the Swiss, French, Germans etc can enjoy portable satellite with a small antenna anywhere in Europe, whilst us Brits get landid with a stupid system that relies on a Spot Beam focused onto the UK.
All they had to do, was Soft Encrypt Freesat, job done.
Back in the day a Sky mini dish worked fine all over France, not now though, so in effect we have gone backwards!
The fact that you can still recieve Freesat all over France, just goes to prove what a waste of time it was adopting a Spot Beam, if the intention was to restrict content to UK only.
There are probably more folk now, watching Freesat outside of UK than there was before, and most of them will not be UK Nationals.
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Hi ppscott01, and welcome to the forum.
You probably have in your hands what is the best manufactured satellite dish's ever made.
Only closely matched by one made from Precision, who almost exclusively supply to the milatary, although I suspect you may know all about that.
Anyway no photos as I am technically challenged in that department when it comes to this forum.
Feed Arms Length. = 452mm or 17 3/4" for Church of England.
Feed Arms Diameter = 10mm with 5mm internal thread either end.
I guess you still have the boss to which the feed horn clamps onto, another nice piece of engineering to take the 3 Feed Arms.
If you have, you will know that the dish is only designed for a 23mm feed horn, not a problem as you can get Universal LNB's with a 23mm collar, designed for a PFA and not Offset.
Good luck.
Edit = correct myself, as that dish could also be fitted with a C Band LNB, using an adapter, so I guess any type feed horn could be fitted, either 23mm or the more modern style 40mm, just a case of having the relevant adapter.
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