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Subject Topic: New to caravaning and want to go abroad!! Post Reply Post New Topic
08/2/2008 at 8:19pm
 Location: Bangor Northern Ireland
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Hi we are in the process of trying to buy a used caravan to travel through France and down into Spain. Can anyone recommend a good first time caravan that would be suitable for us and also reliable enough to take to Europe. We know nothing about caravans and all the dealers we have gone to are trying to sell us this years model.


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08/2/2008 at 8:41pm
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I'm not sure it's the make/model which will determing reliability but getting the caravan checked over first.  If you buy from a reputable dealer who has some second hand vans as a result of trade-ins they should have serviced the caravan and provide some sort of garantee.  Have a look on the caravan club /practical caravanning websites and see if they have any info on what to beware of (eg damp) when buying a second hand van.  I think you may be a month or too early.  The shows are on just now so folk will be thinking of upgrading and when they take delivery of their new vans will be looking to sell ...  In part you will be limited by budget, your tow car therefore size and weight of van and the layout you prefer - fixed bed 2 or 4/5 berth etc.         



08/2/2008 at 8:47pm
 Location: Bangor Northern Ireland
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Thank you so much for getting back to me I really know nothing about caravans and really appriciate your advice. thanks. Budget wise I think we could spend up to about £5000 and our car is a mercedes and according to a guy in an abbey dealership today we cannot go for a twin axel caravan as our car wont pull it. Again we aren't sure whether this is correct or not.


08/2/2008 at 8:52pm
 Location: Norwich
 Outfit: Bailey Olympus 504 - Honda CR-V
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The two things you have to look for are kerb weight of your car and nosewieight which is the front weight of the van at towball. The recommended ratio is 85% caravan to car, and the noseweight of the caravan should not exceed the car's recommended capability. The best thing you could do is call the caravan club (you may need to join first) and their technical department provide a free service advising whether a particular make and model of car is suitable for a particular make or model of caravan, Dont necessarily listen to the dealer as they can be more interested in the sale.


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08/2/2008 at 8:52pm
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If you find your car's kerb weight and braked towing limit that will help.  I think the caravan club recommend that your caravan (fully laden) is no more than 85% of the kerb weight of your car and unless you have a lot of experience towing I would follow this advice.  It is certainly illegal for it to be more than 100%!   Some cars have a braked towing limit which is lower than this - e.g. PT cruiser.  The lower of the two limits should be adhered to (does this make sense)?    



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08/2/2008 at 8:54pm
 Location: Norwich
 Outfit: Bailey Olympus 504 - Honda CR-V
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Touche!


08/2/2008 at 8:56pm
 Location: Milton Keynes
 Outfit: Bailey Alliance 66-2 Motorhome
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I think you need to find out what your car can tow, it should be in the handbook and that will give you a guide as to the heavest caravan you can tow. Its not a bad idea to have a bit of power in reserve as that makes towing easier. There is a recommendation that new comers to towing limit the weight of the caravan to 85% of kerbweight to allow you to get used to towing. If you are intending to tow for long distances its also worth thinking about the tyres on the caravan you buy. If you are uncertain about their age I would suggest buying new ones.

David



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08/2/2008 at 9:08pm
 Location: Bangor Northern Ireland
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Thank you all for replying its really good to know that there is help out there as we feel ourselves that we are being given biased advice by the dealers we have seen. Your help is really appreciated


08/2/2008 at 9:38pm
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Hi there

Our first trip with a caravan was to France last year, loads of people thought we were nuts not getting a "few years" in the UK under our belts first but frankly it was a doddle.

The layout and type of caravan you need are purely personal but i would say its better to stay well below the max towing weight of the car (say about 85% max). we did and it made life simple and stress free.

take a good Sat Nav, it takes all the hassle out of travelling. (The Garmin Nuvi 250 is a goo one and Motorworld are doing them at £120)

DONT take to much stuff. the amount of gear I took out of the caravan when we got home which had never been used was enormous. Take what you would consider taking if you packed the car for a camping trip........its plenty.

Arrive at the ferry in plenty of time.........and watch the seasoned caravanners do their stuff. Copying  the preperations they make for the ferry loading, i am convinced, saved my jockey wheel.

And if in doubt ASK someone. 99.9% of caravaners are only too pleased to help out. We had so much friendly help whilst in France and at Portsmouth that the idea of going back to the Costa packet, everyman for himself bun fight of a package deal holiday chills my bones.  Never again.

 



09/2/2008 at 6:52am
 Location: North Essex
 Outfit: Caravelair Alba 400
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You will spend less money buying privately-look on ebay-obviously use your common sense-make sure it is the sellers to sell--as for reliabilty--get a mechanic you trust-to service the wheel bearings, brakes & coupling/shock absorber--also if there is any doubt about the age of the tyres change them-even if the tread is not worn out-preferably with a good make-ie Michelin or similar-If you are towing across Europe I would change them anyway & obviously you need a spare & jack

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12/2/2008 at 11:12pm
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Before you buy a caravan have a look on www.whattowcar.com, it is a fnatastic website, you list your car, the caravn you are considering and it tells you whether they are a suitable and safe match.


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13/2/2008 at 6:05pm
 Location: Sunny Suffolk
 Outfit: Citroen C5 estate Bailey Pageant Au
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Hi,

Also have a look at auto-trader caravan section for used vans.

We sold our old van on there and had a good result from positive buyers.

E-bay is Ok but you could find yourself paying more than you want if you are up against two or three others who also want it. Good for the seller but not you as a buyer.

There are plenty of layout styles in caravans, I would recommend going to your local dealer, looking around ALL the vans they have. Decide on the layouts you like and then whittle them down until you have a hit list of models you like. Look at autotrader and see if there are any about locally and then go and have a good look around.

There are also the "extra's" to consider looking into.

Do you want an awning? gas bottles etc. etc. If you're lucky somebody selling up for good could well offer you everything you need and for one price.

 

Hope this helps??

 

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16/2/2008 at 9:20pm
 Location: England
 Outfit: Avondale Mayfly 2000
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We have caravanned for thirty years and if you are just starting out I suggest you look for a private sale as most dealers want an arm and a leg for older caravans.   I think Sprite are quite a reliable van and not too heavy, also we had an A.B.I. Award which was very good, but may be too heavy for your car.   Find out the weight etc. on your car and match the caravan with that.   You can find much information of this in Practical Caravan.   As long as you have electric hookup, a dry caravan and reasonable kitchen you should be fine for travelling.  Big sites abroad have every facility on them.   Good Luck.



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