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Subject Topic: Parking Ticket ..Bruges shall I ignore it
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09/3/2013 at 6:07pm
 Location: hampshire
 Outfit: lunar delta 490 4
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the company I used to work for had a driver get a fine in bordeax which he never paid or told anyone about.
two months later the same vehicle went missing in lille and the new driver reported it stolen, only to be told by the gendarmes that it had been removed to a secure compound for non payment of fines.
the original fine was for 50 euros. to get the vehicle released came to over a thousand euros.
some people are just plain lucky others not and the Spanish French and other Europeans now share information on driving offences.


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09/3/2013 at 8:37pm
 Location:  Dumfries
 Outfit: 2022 CoachmanVIP 2022 Pilote P696GJ
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As said earlier DVLA dont give the information to other European country's
unless the vehicle has been involved in an accident.
I'm currently in Portugal and the new tolled A22 motorway payment system has been causing a lot of problems.
Indeed when we crossed from Spain into Portugal and went to pay with a credit card at the automated booth the machine would not accept it and on pressing the help button nobody came.
We ended driving of with no receipt as the card didn't work .
If the Portugese do send me a fine which i doubt very much as they won't be able to get my info from dvla they won't be able to enforce it.


09/3/2013 at 9:55pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Karsten 220 De Waard Visdief+Kuifuil
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Yep you are quite right, see here. I know I'd just pay up though, if it was a small fine and I was guilty...I'm a chicken17

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160834/How-DVLA-makes-thousands-month-helping-catch-UK-drivers-fined-holiday.html



09/3/2013 at 10:32pm
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"and they (the Belgiums)do have access to send a summons to your UK address.."

Would they really go through with the expense of taking someone to court in the Uk for 30 euros?     no is the answer.

Common sense tells you the only danger is being caught  for the unpaid fine if you ever drive in Belgium with the same car again/come to the attention of the authorities.



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09/3/2013 at 10:46pm
 Location: SUNNY BOLTON
 Outfit: Vauxhall Zafira with Leaky Lunar
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Apparantly, this private 'cowboy outfit', buys the fines list from another EU list.

They do not act on behalf of the country involved and cannot force any judgement in this country.

They have as much power as a private parking company who look after Asda's carparks.

It is debateable whether any money collected by their mithering (and thats all they can do) goes back to the EU, I can't see it as the list has been purchased.

Impounding when abroad, I don't know, all of the stories are third hand.

I'm just very surprised that 'splendidisolation' admits to reading the Daily Mail!


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09/3/2013 at 11:54pm
 Location: None Entered
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I did not admit to reading it! I googled DVLA Europe fines...and that came up!!!

 I'm still curious though as to who actually sends these fines out, as I know the one I saw was postmarked Norway etc and fined in local currency. I take it these 'companies' are purely the middle men making a bit, and the fine does actually get paid to the authority in the country concerned?

This all reminds me of that programme that was on recently about people taking a stance against councils parking fines etc, don't know if anyone saw it. A couple of chaps in it were making it their lifes work, fighting against them.



10/3/2013 at 12:28am
 Location: SUNNY BOLTON
 Outfit: Vauxhall Zafira with Leaky Lunar
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Sorry s............., just a bit of tongue in cheek there.

Its a private firm called EPC that operates in this country and as the article states, it gets the unpaid fines from certain EU 'states' - I rather think that it pays something on the pound for these and takes its chances on the profit from people who are intimidated to pay up (like a private parking charge - which is not a fine).

Norway is not part of the EU, so perhaps a different kettle of fish.


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11/3/2013 at 12:22pm
 Location: hampshire
 Outfit: lunar delta 490 4
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unfortunately my story is not third hand as pstuart suggest, I was the poor bugger who had to fly out and pay the charges and collect the vehicle.


11/3/2013 at 3:04pm
 Location: SUNNY BOLTON
 Outfit: Vauxhall Zafira with Leaky Lunar
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Hi sambob

When was this?

It seems to be being suggested that its the vehicle that attracts the fine (either speeding or parking) and not the driver.
Two points, if the fine has been sold on to EPC UK Ltd. how do the initiating EU authority know that its still outstanding or not and if you have just bought a car with an outstanding EU fine will that be confiscated when next in the EU ?


14/3/2013 at 12:24pm
 Location: hampshire
 Outfit: lunar delta 490 4
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yes it is the vehicle that attracts the attention, but if you are a new owner of the vehicle there is not a problem as all this information is printed on the newer v5 documents.
the offence occurred in 2010.
I forgot to mention that as this vehicle was registered to a company you haven't a hope in hell of getting away with it.
it is ten times worse if it is a large goods vehicle, I know of one company in Portsmouth who I will not name whos driver doctored the speed limiter system on a 44 ton truck.
when it was stopped near bayonne for a routine check the French police noticed inconsistencies on the tacho disc so had the vehicle taken to the local Renault dealer for a complete inspection. where they found a wire disconnected, they do not mess around out there they fitted a complete new system at a cost of 1800 euros and with the fine the total bill came to over 5000 euros.
after that the vehicle was getting stopped regularly by French police and in different parts of the country! the vehicle in question is now relegated to uk work only.



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