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23/12/2014 at 6:01pm
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Hello

This is my first post 😊

We are planning a 6 week trip to France during the 2015 school summer holidays.   This will be our first trip to France with a touring caravan (previously camped), our first stop is Serre Chevalier, Hautes Alpes, 9+ hours from Calais.    

I can't decide wether to go for short stops or long stops. We have 2 children who will be 7 and 9 next summer.     What are the pros of stopping over for a few nights and taking things easy versus stopping for one night and blasting through to the end point.

I know it is different for everyone but I'd like to hear what works for some and doesn't work for others.

Many thanks,

Cindy


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23/12/2014 at 6:31pm
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'Blasting through' until you get to a specific destination whatever the holdups & so on is boring & also tiring if you are the only driver. Its expensive because you have to use toll autoroutes & fuel up & eat at expensive motorway services which are busy at peak periods & French services usually have inadequate provision of toilets. This is often the solution for those who have only 2wks holiday because it gets you there & back quickly.

If you have more time then you may prefer to use mostly toll free national routes which will allow you to see more of the country & to save money by fuelling up & also buying sandwiches etc at supermarkets or eating at local restaurants as you wish. Usually campsites along the way so you can stop when you want.

Although if you prefer to use toll autoroutes you can pull off into most towns & find a local campsite so you can always stop if you are too tired to continue. Making a list of campsites along your route is a good idea.

So no right or wrong way to do it, its just what works better for yourself.


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If you've got all that time why not take it easy.
Wouldn't fancy a 9 hour traveling day with young kids to be honest.


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I would do extended stopovers, and choose your overnight sites carefully.  Some of our (now) favourite sites were those we found when overnighting on our way somewhere else.  Make sure there is enough for the children to do on site, and off site as well, and you may find that you go back for a longer stay next time.

With six weeks you have time to find lovely places en-route - perhaps Disneyland Paris or Parc Asterix could even be on the agenda - though tiring, so you will need more than just a couple of days!

If you need suggestions for overnight sites then I'm sure someone will have some good suggestions!



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I think years ago we decided to make the journey part of the holiday. When we were at work we managed to get 3 weeks off. Heading for the South of France we would aim to spend a few days in the Alps on the way down. The homeward journey was a bit quicker but we still tried to stay a couple of days on the way back.

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Hi Cindy, I'm not normally the one to be cautious - we've taken caravans over so many Alpine passes for so many years - but the road over the Lautaret Pass from Grenoble to Serre Chevalier is not altogether easy. Are you going that way?

We were up there solo this last summer ( and you must spend a couple of hours at the top of the pass to see the Alpine garden) but we found the dark narrow tunnels on the way up there from Bourg d' Oisans - with oncoming traffic blitzing at us - a bit stressful. Maybe my eyesight is failing now I'm old, and there were a lot of motor homes parked at the top, but the only caravans going that way were small Eribas. So pick a quieter day than we did.

But to answer your first question. Yes, make the journey part of the holiday.



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We were determined this year to not use toll roads - we had 6 weeks in France etc. so time was not an issue. HOWEVER, we ended up using toll roads for most of our longer trips. We found non motorway driving tougher , with too many roundabouts and the money you saved was lost in increased fuel and much longer time taken to reach your destination. When your sat nav says 4 hours drive on the motorway or 6 hours on non toll we ended up using the toll.
Sorry for not being romantic about driving in France.


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27/12/2014 at 8:56am
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To be fair there are areas in France where we wouldn't try to go 'off-toll' - the journey from Calais to St Quentin, for example, is stop, speed limit, roundabout, stop, traffic lights, stop, one after another through a lot of towns and villages. 

On the other hand there is the non-toll road from Abbeville to Rouen, and Rouen to Chartres, which is fine apart from a couple of exceptions - the Dreux by pass (which can be avoided should you choose) and the Chartres ring road.  Then the whole section from just south of Orleans to the Mediterranean can be done off the toll roads in a reasonable time, and with few real hold ups.  We do our journeys out of peak season, though, and a holiday weekend in July/August will be very different to a Sunday in early May.

More about stopovers, you may find that your children make friends and don't want to move on - mine used to.  On one occasion we were overnighting, my youngest son went off on the Young Teenage Club musical sleepover in the woods, with a campfire, made friends with Robert and Catherine and said the following morning 'Do we have to carry on to Spain...............'.  Fortunately we hadn't booked, and so we just stayed put and had one of the best holidays ever!  We still keep in touch and hear from Robert and Catherine's parents regularly!

Anther short stop tip is to set off from one site early in the morning, and then stop about two or three o'clock.  That will give you time to set up - and still have time to walk around the site, the village, pop to the evening farmer's market, your children to enjoy a swim or whatever is going on locally and time to just unwind after the journey.  You'll be stopping before most others, and so will have more chance of finding the nicer pitches.

And a few more:

Make sure the caravan isn't cluttered with stuff that needs moving for you to be able to use it, and on short stops don't bother with anything you don't need.  If you don't use the caravan shower then forget the aquaroll and just have about five litres of water in the van, plus a full kettle.  Then you don't need the waste drain, and if he weather is good just put your table and chairs outside.  If not leave them packed away and use the caravan table.  We generally just arrive, steadies down, hook up in, kettle filled and on, and then put our table and chairs outside - and sit down!  Takes about five minutes at the most.  We have seen people arrive and put everything out but the kitchen sink and then pack it all away again next day before moving on (late!!)

If you have a lot of stuff you usually keep on the caravan floor, or in the bathroom compartment then think about a top box - that way it stays out of the way on the top of the car until you actually need it.  And a modern streamlined top box may even help with air flow and mpg when towing - though we do take it off when we arrive on a longer stay site.



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We attempted to go off toll as much as possible the first time we took the caravan to France, a big mistake imo. They are essential really to get round towns. We were held up for so long in one town that I popped out to the boulangerie, was in a queue too, the car hadn't moved when I got back to it.

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For us, an overnight stop is always 2 nights minimum. It is always worth snooping around the local area and discovering "off piste" delights. We have extended our overnight to 15 days on one particular occasion.

As David says, make the journey part of the holiday. If you rush to the site, you will find that you are so knackered that you will need a few days to recover. So why not take it slower and benefit from non knackered days.


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28/12/2014 at 12:48pm
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For the last five years we've taken six/seven weeks in July/August.

Initially we drove/towed from home (North Coast of N Ireland) ... every conceivable combination of ferry crossing ... and, nearly always went 'hell for leather' for the first planned site .... where we spent a minimum of one week. Luckily our daughter seldom moaned at long trips (she'd been camping with us from the age of three) ... I also managed to do quite a lot of night-time motorway driving, whilst she and OH slept through.

It's just part of my psychology to 'want to get there' as soon as possible ...
I suspect one's chosen methodology is entirely dependant upon your character style and natural body rhythms .... some are long distance runners, others sprinters, and others middle distance runners.

Nowadays we store the FC in France, near Angers, so the initial drive is down to Rosslare for the ferry (to St Nazaire last year, though that may not be an option this year) to Cherbourg, and drive down to pick up the FC ... so much easier, and cheaper, than towing it all the way ... as well as getting rid of any home storage issues.

If doing a very long trip ... e,g, two years ago to Bavaria .... I stopped overnight in Strasbourg (Formule 1), and spent a morning looking round the city.

Last year I drove non stop to the site (on the Lot, not far from Cahors) ... arrived at 1 a.m. ... site locked up, of course, so I slept in the car till they opened. There was an area for overnighting ... so with a MH or Van, it was easy enough to overnight outside the 'gates' .... and that is possible at many sites. I should add, I was alone ... OH and daughter flew to Bordeaux, where I picked them up the following afternoon and they arrived at the site to a set-up FC (proving that one can do it solo ... awning and all!) They loved that! It also saved then three days of travel road/ferry/road and set-up.

The FC can be ready for sleeping in fifteen minutes, but is generally not a fantastic option for one nighters ... you do clamber over whatever else is packed in to get to the beds, and unpacking is a poor option.

Now we spend ten days to a fortnight at each location with a one day dash between sites, using motorways when possible ... if we pass near a 'much flagged' town/village/POI, we will stop for a saunter ... or a meal ... we do tend to avoid the motorway service stations for fuel (both car's and human's), as the prices are ridiculous.

With your first trip I would recommend you to have 'sussed out' some possible sites en-route .... and then use them if you want/need to ... 'suck it and see' approach. There's nothing worse than:
a. Having driven long hours and then need a day or two to recover
b. Stop over and end up wishing you'd done it in 'one go' to get more of whatever you chose your destination site for.

As ever ... we'll all be very different!


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You need a certain discipline to tour with short stops in several different locations. You have to learn the layout and local customs at each camp site, find the shops, beach etc.
The day you move needs a little planning, maybe getting up and clearing away breakfast earlier before packing everything and moving on. At the end of the day you have to set up in the new camp site and learn everything all over again.
Cycling from Cherbourg to Boulogne with a new campsite every evening caused everything to all become a bit of a blur, never quite remembering what happened where, so it is best to keep a diary.
When touring it is best to cut out any unneeded kit, you will have to load and unload it every day yet never actually use it.
On the positive side it would be an adventure.

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Ah, yes .... cycle camping is a completely different ball game.
With five panniers, I made sure that all me gear was sorted so that each pannier suited a particular function: Clothes, Food and cooking, maps/books/paperwork/admin, Bike spares/repair kit etc, Towel/shaving gear/washing kit/first aid etc.
That really was one stop a day ... don't think I stayed anywhere for more than a night.


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We've been using hotels when getting to our destinations for the last few years. So slightly different as we have no camp set up times.

Anyway, we've done a few trips where we've done days with shorter journeys and with short stops. It's surprising what you can fit into an afternoon or evening with children.

We've done things like get off the Eurotunnel, drive for an hour, see a museum. Drive for a bit, have lunch, get to hotel with time for a swim and evening potter.

You do need to be organized to make it work well, especially with young children. As someone above said you can waste time finding supermarkets, local attractions etc Or you have a caravan stocked with a few basics and quick meals and know what you want to see.


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We've done 2 longish trips, in 2011 and 2013. Enjoy, it is a fantastic experience, particularly as a family.

In 2011 our kids were 18 months and 4, looking back we can't believe we travelled through Germany, Italy and back through the French Alps with such young children.

On that trip we stopped for 4 nights in Koblenz, 7 in Bavaria, 14 in Lake Garda, 9 in Annecy and an overnight stop in a hotel on the way back.

On the second trip the kids wanted as much time in Italy as possible even when we explained that would mean longer travelling days. We therefore had an overnight hotel in Reims, 2 nights on a campsite near Geneva, 21 nights at Garda and 11 nights in the French Jura.

The DVD player with many Disney films made the journeys pretty painless. We can't wait to do a big trip again,the only downside is it makes subsequent 2 week holidays feel like a mini short break!


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