I really need to start reminding my self of the basics and learn new phrases. I'm meeting myself coming back on Amazon and the library has nothing of any help. They are either just dictionary's or guide books with "some" phases.
Can anyone recommend a book for me to learn the basics and to take with me into restaurants/ supermarkets while we're out there please?.
The other issue I have is that I lived in Italy a few years ago and learnt Italian fairly well. My brain automatically thinks in Italian and when I'm trying to remember my school girl French, I'm not sure whether it's French or Italian . I'm going to come across as a right weird Brit
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Rather than learn complete phrases from phrase books I find it easier to learn the basic phrases like have you got and what is and so on and the names of things separately. Always be a bit humourous and keep a smile on your face saying please and thankyou and the French like you for it.
As for books, any French dictionary and phrase book is as good as any so save your money and find them on carboot sales. Obviously a bigger one will be more comprehensive but more difficult to carry and refer to when out and about.
I still want to try though, i'm going for the French experience and i'd love my son to have a go or at least watch me trying. He's too young for me to be an embarassment yet .
Thanks Billy, that's just what i'm aiming for, having a go. Nothing worse than seeing a Brit not even bothering abroad. I'll keep my eye out for books in the next week or two.
French Phrase book and dictionary by Philippa Goodrich, BBC Publications ISBN 978-0-563-51918-8
It is small size and covers everything from explaining "personal" things to a chemist, to eating in poshest restaurants
The best dictionary is "Dictionnaire Anglais Larousse"
ISBN 978-2-03-587272-2
This has all the latest text speak, slang and idioms.
Phrases like "Allez cul" and "ne sois pas si con" are in it. The Collins or Oxford dictionaries are not so up to date
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Quote: Originally posted by kirsty12 on 29/6/2015
I was a little concerned about that Crach
I still want to try though, i'm going for the French experience and i'd love my son to have a go or at least watch me trying. He's too young for me to be an embarassment yet .
You'll have to head for the least touristy places in the area, the little villages which time has passed by where they won't speak english, but a 'patois' which is the french equivalent of 'geordie'. There you will sit in the restaurant not really knowing what you have ordered, but hoping it is not 'andouillette' or worse..
I'm going to try at least once, somewhere in the middle of nowhere and hope for the best Crach. We did book Sarlat knowing they'd be British about, it's our first trip so a bit of a practise run really.
It's good to try out your French, they really do appreciate it. In St Gilles last year, our family was congratulated by restaurant staff as we all spoke in French, even my nine year old was brave and had a go!
Don't worry about switching to Italian, my hubby often starts off in German (worked in Germany a lot a few years ago) but it always raises a smile!
Have a lovely time Kirsty, you are going to have a ball!
My French is clearly fluent as someone in a market once asked me where in Germany was I from!
Best French tuition I have come across is a set of CDs by Michel Thomas. He makes it seem so easy. You may be a bit short of time for that though, although good to listen to driving along.
------------- Neil
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I do the same as Billy. A few basic phrases tends to get me by for most things that I require.
The trouble starts when I ask the question and they respond in French as if I am also French. It is then that I have to say "non parlez francais" or "Je parle un francais tres petites".
------------- Ollie
2016
Monplaisir - Provence
Camping Les Gorges du Loup
Our Canadian/Irish friend in the village has just come back from his first trip to the Dordogne and stayed in Les Eyzies. He said he hardly heard a word of French in his four day stay - and just like Crach said, he found that if he tried to speak French he got a reply in English.
We listen to French radio all the time, and you will find this helps to 'attune' your ears to listening in French. This is as important as speaking some French, as there is little point in asking a question, and then not understanding the reply. Study some potential answers to your questions as well - at least basic ones. And, as everyone says, smile a lot! If you come out with the wrong sort of bread, or three things instead of one (or as I once nearly did with 5kg of mince instead of 500 grams) then just make the best of it. I really thought the butcher I'd just asked was mincing a whole load for the shop, not just for me!
As Crach says (again) the local accent may be very difficult to understand - and may bear little resemblance to the French in your phrase book. In this area it's a very Catalan accent, and the pronunciation of some words is entirely different - even numbers!
Lots of Phone apps will do the job, you could also do some practesing using google translate on your computer.
below is the first one i found there are lots more Phone link