When travelling to Rosslare or Dublin for ferries, we used to allow an hour to get through the (not huge) town of Drogheda, traffic was horrendous as all cars went rhough one single set of traffic lights. Then in 2003 a toll bridge was built which completely bypassed Drogheda. Now each time we pay 3 euro and save an hour, and probably save the 3 euro in petrol costs anyway.
The point ? Don't think of your tolls in cost terms. If you want to get somewhere fast, pay the autoroute tolls, save on the stress of getting through town centres, saveon petrol and gain time at your destination. If you don't need to be somewhere fast, save on the tolls, enjoy seeing towns en route and stop off at yet-to-be-found roadside cafes and municipal halts.
You pays your money and you takes your choice !
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And even better now with the long, free, motorway section at the bottom end!
Rosslare is getting ever closer!
And it's certainly worth using the M50 round Dublin ... with your e-flow account ... why don't continental motorways use the camera system, no need to carry your chips fixed to windscreens, or worry about batteries running out ... just instant reg plate photo id and immediately through to your account, paid quarterly by DD.
Maybe it's all the variety of foreign plates?
Though I'm sure something could be worked out ... after all .... it is 'one Europe' (ho-ho-ho)
"Greedy Toll Operators" what Nonsense.
The Toll roads are incredible to drive on smooth surfaces, lots f toilets and petrol stops, lots of plain Aires and lots of places to overnight without paying "Greedy campsite owners" (Cynical mode OFF)
Many of the back roads in France are appalling, blocked up with huge lorries and tractors, crawling through what look like ghost villages.
OK if youre a Newbie to France it might be interesting, but for me the Autoroute is well worth the money.
There is no contest.
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If you value your time, the toll roads can be worth the investment. There are some good "hacks" which can be found by looking at a map which can save you some cash with not much loss of time. An example is switching from the A10 to the N10 between Poitiers and just North of Bordeaux, where you will save about 250 km of toll charges in exchange for a journey time about 15 minutes longer on a mostly dualled road via Angouleme.
There are other advantages to the toll routes too, such as frequent rest areas with generally clean toilets.
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Quote: Originally posted by fleck2 on 05/6/2016
Tip of the day:
Book into Laribal camp site at Milau for the night and avoid the toll viaduct. It's only €11 if you're in ACSI
We only have two weeks holidays (sometimes 10 days) but we do a mixture of both and plan our route accordingly. We can usually tell whether N roads are ok - the ones that run alongside the Motorway are always just as good.
If we feel it's getting a bit late we jump back on the motorway at a convenient point to get us to our destination on time :-)
Towing we use more tolls, especially going, to get South and into better weather.
Biking we use mainly non-tolls after the first day, taking scenic (wiggly) routes.
Either way we use tolls for the first and last days.
We tend to think of holidaying in France as a "package". Admittedly using the toll roads can appear to be expensive but you have to take in to consideration that fuel is cheaper than in the UK, you get better mpg using the tolls and you make better time on a long journey. Also car parking charges during the holiday are virtually non existent except in large town/city centres. Campsites, particularly out of the main season are reasonable, thanks to ACSI and Camping Cheques and the choice enormous. Oh! and wine is much cheaper!!!!!'
Towing a caravan on Dual carriageway N roads can be hard work as a lot of the HGV drivers seem to prefer using these to the toll roads. So if you're trying to "toddle" along at 60 mph you are continually running up to the backs of large lorrys and have to overtake. If you ease your foot off the pedal for a while then you find the big lorry that you overtook five minutes ago is passing you again. This obviously also happens on toll roads but much less frequently.
We tend to use a mix of A, N and D roads but if we have a long day travelling stick on the tolls. 250 - 300 plus journey days are manageable no problem whereas other roads might mean an extra overnight stop off costing an extra €20 plus.
It all depends whether you want to take your time or get somewhere quick.
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We tried St. Lambert site at Millau last night, very nice, not a lot in it really but we prefer Larribal because you can walk into town, the WIFI is site-wide and the river bank pitches are grassier rather than half mud half weeds.