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Subject Topic: NW England->Mt Blanc_> Monte Carlo Post Reply Post New Topic
PersonWilliamMcBeard
30/12/2019 at 11:00pm
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Evening all,

Have booked ferries and final destination accommodation. Wondered if anyone would like to suggest some routes.

I've got 3 days (29/7-1/8) to get from home in NW, via Dover, to Toulon to pick up lass and kids from airport. My current plan is:

29/7
NW->Dover 12:05 crossing (6 hour drive)
Calais-> Jorquenay (approx anoter 5 hours)

30/7
Jorquenay-> Chamonix (approx 6 our drive)
Up the cable car etc

31/7
Chamonix->Menton (approx 6 hour drive)
Into Monte Carlo etc.

1/8
Menton to Marseille airport (flight gets in at 2pm so a lter start today) 2.5 hours drive.
Marseille Airport to Toulon (1 hour drive)

I'd like to avoid the Mont Blanc tunnel and Turin tunnel as they are adding +£80 to my travels!

Can I use the same TAG for the Payage in France/Mt Blanc/Turin to spread the cost to the next month?

Any other thoughts or advice appreciated.

To add a bit of context, I've done the drive from Ageles to NW England in a single day with the tunnel as rest. Love driving in France so the times don't worry me.

Many Thanks in Advance
Bill

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PersonVal A
31/12/2019 at 9:16am
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Are you towing a caravan, or driving solo? I would say your timings are ambitious but then I wouldn't want to cram things into such a short timescale. I'm sure you'll do it anyway, and perhaps enjoy it, but some things are worth more than just ticking them off on a list of 'Been there, done that......'.

The one good thing (perhaps) is that you're not trying to do it over what would be one of the busiest weekends in France when much of France is on the move south for their holidays. But traffic will be busy anyway, especially as you get further south, as it's peak weeks for the French to be away. Riviera traffic might make your trip into Monte Carlo a stop/start/stop/start affair.


PersonNetherton
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I am always mindful of the Prussian army commander who said no plan ever survives first contact with the enemy.

Take care. stay safe.


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Don't know if you're towing, but you can't tow a caravan in Monaco


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PersonBaileyjake
02/1/2020 at 1:49pm
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why do you mention Turin, montblanc tunnel?

they dont fall enroute to Marseille and i dont think you will have time for a diversion to switzerland or italy....and remember if iin Switzerland you could need the vingnette which costs minimum $50 for 1 year. (a road tax of the motorways)

time wise, diving a Nissan Navarra solo i have driven from worcester to Ardriers near limoges in one day. thats about 670 miles. and takes 11h without stopping for anything other than, chamnnel tunnel, fuel coffee and ....gillet jaunts.

but otherwise enjoy your trip.

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PersonWilliamMcBeard
04/1/2020 at 3:38pm
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Thanks all for the advice and tips.

I've gone for:

29th- Home, to South of Reims
30th- South of Reims to Chamonix
31st- Chomonix to Menton (train tri to Monaco to avoid traffic)
1st- Menton to Montpellier to pick up family for 2 weeks in a villa.

Hopefully I'll enjoy this trip as much as I've enjoyed other long drives South

Bill

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Personkenren
04/1/2020 at 4:08pm
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If you really like driving then instead of going via Italy from Chamonix try this:-

Chamonix > Albertville > Grenoble > Sisteron then la route Napoleon to Grasse then A8 to Menton

Doesn’t get much more spectacular than that

Ken


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PersonWilliamMcBeard
04/1/2020 at 8:43pm
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Thanks Ken, I will note that.

Does anyone know if I need a vignette to 'cut the corner' through Geneva on route from Reims to Chamonix? Or am I better going a slightly longer route?

Cheers
Bill

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Personkenren
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Afaik you don’t need a vignette unless you use the motorways in Switzerland so with a lot of planning you could probably do it. However if you take the A39 from Dijon and then the A40 from Bourg en Bresse direct to Chamonix it would be much quicker and simpler.

Heading down part of that route ourselves on Thursday on the way to our skiing holiday at La Plagne

Ken


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Very ambitious indeed. If you are towing be prepared for a few speeding fines in the post when you get back home.
DaveS1


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I suspect if staying in a villa he doesn't have a caravan?

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Sounds like a good plan. I’d love that drive!

Regarding the vignettes, it’s about 30 quid. Depending on the mpg and extra distance x2 it could be worth sucking it up. Chalk up another country too.

Andy



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