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17/11/2020 at 11:23pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 17/11/2020
My wife and I had our flu jabs several weeks ago, and had a shingles jab at the same time. One in each arm. They were done by appointment at our local surgery where they took us both in together. There was only one person in front of us and we had to wait outside until we were called in. It was all done in a couple of minutes.

I had a Zoom meeting this afternoon with our local patient participation group from the surgery, and they said that when the Covid jabs become available it is likely to be a walk-through service by appointment. If you are driving you will have to wait 15 minutes outside afterwards, presumably in case there is any immediate reaction although they are not expecting any. Just a precaution. If you are not driving there is no need to wait.

That is contrary to NHS guide lines all patients must wait 15 mins whether they drive or not,
Quote:But isn’t it just like a flu jab?

No, not by a long stretch.

Flu jabs are delivered in their own little syringes, and kept refrigerated. They can safely last in a vaccine fridge for several months. We can keep them and use them, either in dedicated flu clinics or opportunistically if we see you for something else. We can run the clinics a bit like a conveyor belt, as I’m sure many of you will have experienced. We can get a large number of people vaccinated in a very short period of time. People then leave the practice immediately. Once a year, job done.
. We will have to carefully draw them up from a main vial, dilute and mix them for each individual which will probably take from start to finish about 20 minutes, needing two members of staff (one to draw up, one to check – this is established safe practise with these preparations to minimise error). Once the patient has received their Covid-jab they must wait for 15 minutes to ensure no serious reaction
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18/11/2020 at 1:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 17/11/2020
Quote: Originally posted by Baileyjake on 17/11/2020
we have come late to the table and ordered 2.5m doses that will arrive next april.





It's five million.



ooohhh ok, at the time of my writing the figure was 2.5 million. i am pleased they have just 5 millon on order.

there are 67 million people in the uk. 2.5 million or 5 million its not going to be enough for the population.

i hope the oxford astra-zanica vaccine is every bit as good as we hope but as yet its behind the others in terms of its delievery.

do we stubbornly wait for it to germinate at the cost of lives and businesses or do we use one thats ready for use. ok none are ready for use yet but the oxfor A-Z is no where near.

the pfizer vaccine is a 2 shot process that kind of doubles the work involved in administering it.


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18/11/2020 at 2:36pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Baileyjake on 18/11/2020
Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 17/11/2020
Quote: Originally posted by Baileyjake on 17/11/2020
we have come late to the table and ordered 2.5m doses that will arrive next april.





It's five million.



ooohhh ok, at the time of my writing the figure was 2.5 million. i am pleased they have just 5 millon on order.

there are 67 million people in the uk. 2.5 million or 5 million its not going to be enough for the population.

i hope the oxford astra-zanica vaccine is every bit as good as we hope but as yet its behind the others in terms of its delievery.

do we stubbornly wait for it to germinate at the cost of lives and businesses or do we use one thats ready for use. ok none are ready for use yet but the oxfor A-Z is no where near.

the pfizer vaccine is a 2 shot process that kind of doubles the work involved in administering it.




Everything I read tells me that the Oxford vaccine is actually very close and that we have enough on order for everybody.


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Several vaccines are 2-shot. Cholera (had to have that every 6 months when we lived in Singapore, miss by a day and you had to get the booster). And one of the Hepatitis ones has to have a second jag, within a year (Hep A? I’ve forgotten, it was years ago). Polio has to be repeated too and it’s a problem getting the boosters done in a nomadic or widely scattered society, so the protection isn’t always complete.
I just wonder how it’s decided which of the vaccines we’ll be given - prefer the 95% effective one rather than the 90% effective one!

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18/11/2020 at 3:01pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 18/11/2020
Several vaccines are 2-shot. Cholera (had to have that every 6 months when we lived in Singapore, miss by a day and you had to get the booster). And one of the Hepatitis ones has to have a second jag, within a year (Hep A? I’ve forgotten, it was years ago). Polio has to be repeated too and it’s a problem getting the boosters done in a nomadic or widely scattered society, so the protection isn’t always complete.
I just wonder how it’s decided which of the vaccines we’ll be given - prefer the 95% effective one rather than the 90% effective one!



In terms of deciding which one we get I would think the govt. is hoping that the Oxford one is on the horizon as they have far more of that on order and it is apparently priced at £3 as opposed to $25 for the other two.


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In trials the Moderna vaccine appears to be as effective in the elderly as in the younger age group whereas the Pfizer vaccine triggers a lot lower immune response in the elderly.
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18/11/2020 at 5:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Fiona W on 18/11/2020
Several vaccines are 2-shot. Cholera (had to have that every 6 months when we lived in Singapore, miss by a day and you had to get the booster). And one of the Hepatitis ones has to have a second jag, within a year (Hep A? I’ve forgotten, it was years ago). Polio has to be repeated too and it’s a problem getting the boosters done in a nomadic or widely scattered society, so the protection isn’t always complete.
I just wonder how it’s decided which of the vaccines we’ll be given - prefer the 95% effective one rather than the 90% effective one!



When I lived in Malaysia the specific Hep A Hep B combined vaccine that I had to get required three doses!

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