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23/1/2024 at 10:05am
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No question is a stupid question if YOU don't know the answer - answering questions is what we're here for.
Can't speak for other brands/models, but I've got a Tyrepal TC215, and that will accept up to 22 tyre sensors in any number/format you want. You 'register' sensors with the base unit, so it only monitors however many sensors you've registered, any others are ignored (you may need to 'de-register' surplus sensors in the kit if previously registered).
You can download the user manual to read up on how it's all done, maybe a bit technobabble at first reading, but you'll get the hang of it: https://www.tyrepal.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/505-802-100-0-TC215-TCSO-SENS........
Beware of 'some' mainly cheapo TPMS systems off ebay, Amazon, and the like, the tyre sensors don't always have sufficient pressure range to cope with caravan tyres which often run at much higher pressures than car tyres (sometimes near twice the pressure!), it's not JUST the normal set pressures (done cold), it's the higher pressure of a warm running tyre (perfectly normal and typically 7-8PSI higher), and the much raised pressure of a overheating tyre that the sensor needs to cope with! - if the sensor range 'tops-out' at the normal cold set pressure, it likely won't alarm at an increase in pressure from a overheating tyre, or even monitor accurately the warm running pressure! And the radio link range has to be considered too, caravan wheels are a relatively long way from the base unit compared to car tyres, so ensure sufficient distance capability, if you have an exceptionally long outfit, Tyrepal offer a range booster accessory.
I looked into options quite thoroughly before purchase (I'm a cheapskate - don't like paying more than I need to, and not terribly brand/advertising hype influenced!), came to the conclusion I'd have to bite the bullet and buy a relatively expensive Tyrepal system to get pressure range needed for my van and assurance of radio link range. Definitely a case of premier brand bringing worthwhile benefits. I did still do it 'on the cheap' a little bit, I bought a s/h but immaculate little used system off ebay at a hefty discount over new price.
If a CAMC member, quite a good discount on some Tyrepal products, check out CAMC website.
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25/1/2024 at 10:25am
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Unfortunately my car does have a touch screen which is pretty much the only way to control 'everything' via endless sub menus, and it's one of the most stupid ideas the industry has ever inflicted on the motorist, mine is certainly no worse than any other car/manufacturers, even possibly better than some, it's just a very flawed concept! I could always use good old mechanical controls without diverting attention from the road, that is IMPOSSIBLE with a touch screen, and the voice control is just too unreliable on the road, it makes so many mistakes or questions your command for verification, it's less distracting to use the touch screen - crazy!
Back to the point, the Tyrepal TPMS is independent of any of the car controls, with an inbuilt battery, it doesn't even require a 12v supply to operate (only to recharge battery), it's a set and forget system, whereby you set your tyre parameters initially (only set once, it remembers them for subsequent use) and then it requires no further interaction from the user, it will just monitor the sensors, compare results with the set parameters and trigger an alarm (audio and visual) if necessary, otherwise it displays the relevant data, which you can largely ignore unless watching for a trend in changing pressures and temps prior to crossing a threshold and an alarm triggering.
It does have a bit of a curiosity interest though for first few uses, as mentioned above, when you watch and learn just how much pressures and temps change once you start rolling, and the effects of different types of roads/driving have, but then you get to ignore it and just let it do its job in the background.
I've been fortunate (or maybe due diligence with tyre care has paid off), in that I've never suffered a problem with trailer tyres in many tens of thousands of miles over decades, but I've certainly known of a few incidents with friends and their trailers, one having a caravan written off (uneconomic repair to body/interior) by the disintegrating tyre before he could pull over and stop. TPMS is not foolproof, but it's IMHO a worthwhile gadget to minimise risks. Trailer tyres are too remote from the driver to get much feedback from them other than by some electronic gizmo.
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25/1/2024 at 4:53pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 25/1/2024
Certainly sounds like a useful device to have. One curiosity though, do you have to have the wheels balanced once the sensors have been fitted? Surely the additional weight, however small, could upset the wheel balance?
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The replacement valve cap type sensors only weigh around 12g more than standard plastic caps (at about 0.5g), so not enough to get too worried about. The fact that caravan wheels rotate relatively slowly due to 50/60MPH max speed limits and weight is well inboard of periphery, helps to minimise any minor out of balance effects. Tyrepal state no need to rebalance wheels after fitting.
My wheels were out of balance by many times that amount when I had new tyres fitted, the old tyres (factory fitted from new!) had never been balanced, as is quite common practice it seems on caravan wheels, definitely crude sand cast alloy wheels out of balance, not just new tyres, never seen so many balance weights fitted to a wheel, even tyre fitter commented, both wheels in same place needing massive counter-balancing rather gave the game away it was wheels not tyres! Rather get the impression, balance of caravan wheels is not much of a priority, even for manufacturers!
12g is nothing to worry about, but nothing to stop you getting them rebalanced after fitting if you must, they don't have any restrictive impact after fitting.
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Tyrepal is a brilliant device, wouldn't be without it, especially as we always do two weeks in France every summer.
As other have said, you pair the sensors to the head unit, set the parameters depending on the recommended tyre pressure and then drive.
The head unit lasts for ages once charged so won't necessarily take up a 12v charging point in the car, it's also illuminated at night time so it's easy to read and the sensor batteries last about 12-18 months.
Although I've had mine for about 4 years, I still find it interesting to watch the temperature and pressure fluctuations whilst driving, even to the point that I sometimes build our rest stops around the readings, especially when traveling on hot days,when the pressure in the caravan tyres can hit 75psi.
Within a few trips, you can get a good understanding of the normal parameters of the caravan tyres, even to the point of knowing you have a problem before the tyrepal system alarms to warn you.
You will also get a discount on the caravan insurance, given the choice between Tyron bands or tyrepal, I would wholeheartedly go for tyrepal.
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