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Subject Topic: WARNING ALKO WHEEL BRACE!
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18/5/2009 at 7:39am
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This is a Word of warning/ advice to save many people from a very expensive that I recently experienced  on the motorway in Northern Spain. My units are used to doing a lot of miles and I thought I kept everything "ship shape" in case of emergencies. Recently (as always happens) in the middle of nowhere I experienced a blow out on the caravan. No problem. Hard shoulder, warning lights on, green jackets out, triangle up, inflated spare wheel out and alko wheel brace- no problems......wrong! The wheel brace would not remove the bolts for love nor money. The Spanish traffic Guards came to try and assist and all that happened was the alko wheelbrace bent! Every spanner available (even the car one) would not shift the bolts. Eventaully after 3 hours a mechanic came out with a spanner and released the offending nuts and away we went but at a cost of 100 EUROS! That was not for a new tyre but simply to release 4 bolts! Not bad work if you can get it! Needless to say I went straight into a DIY shop and bought a 19mm spanner for 12 euros- just in case! A sound investment?! How may people have checked that they can actually get their wheel off if they need to? After this- I would certainly recommend carrying a spare substantial spanner!

Alls well that ended well but just a word of warning/advice to other travellers! Bon Voyage and enjoy!



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I always carry a 2 foot long breaker bar & a 19mm impact socket. You will often find that if wheel nuts are tightened with a torque wrench to the correct torque they cannot be undone with the wheel brace supplied.

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18/5/2009 at 9:08am
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I have just purchased a torque wrench from Screwfix at £14.51, is a more substantial piece of kit that will will torque up a nut to 120 Newtons on the gauge. Not bad value for the price and I believe Argos do the same unit for £20.

Dave.



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Worth pointing out tho that you are not supposed to use a torque wrench for undoing nuts so you still need a breaker bar.

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18/5/2009 at 10:57am
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use a breaker bar myself.

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18/5/2009 at 11:05am
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No need for an Alko wheel brace, a Power wheel mover tool fits a 19mm wheel nut.

An extending wheel brace costs about a fiver in most markets.



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18/5/2009 at 11:08am
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Have a Van-Guard storage box in Land Rover with all manner of tool's.

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18/5/2009 at 6:58pm
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Yes I use the same extending brace and double ended socket that came with my Powrtouch mover for loosening and tightening, and use the leg brace for unscrewing the studs.


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Quote: Originally posted by Vernon on 18/5/2009


An extending wheel brace costs about a fiver in most markets.



An extending wheel brace from the market is ok until you get a tight nut then it will go the same way as the op's wheel brace.

With tools you get what you pay for. Halfords tools are quite good quailty & will do the job. A Halfords breaker bar & impact socket is about £20 odd. An impact socket is thicker & stronger than a normal socket which can crack on a realy stubborn nut.


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18/5/2009 at 8:24pm
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The thicker impact socket will not fit into my alloy wheels.

Towsure's extending wheel brace (Cat No T164) is the same as I bought from my local market, and the socket is replaceable.



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Quote: Originally posted by Vernon on 18/5/2009

The thicker impact socket will not fit into my alloy wheels.

Towsure's extending wheel brace (Cat No T164) is the same as I bought from my local market, and the socket is replaceable.




Well just get a workshop quailty 19mm socket like Snap-On or similar. If Towsure's extending wheelbrace is the same as you buy on markets it will break if you get a really stubborn nut as described in the op.


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18/5/2009 at 9:34pm
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We carry a breaker bar for jobs like this and also because on the horse trailer there is a breakaway bolt that lets the bar at the front drop if the horses legs get stuck over it.  You need a substantial bar to release the eye bolt on the outside of the trailer.  I have also bought a torque wrench for ensuring wheel nutd etc are tightened uo correctly.

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18/5/2009 at 9:44pm
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Always carried one of these and never had a problem, if you use a extension you can apply more pressure by pulling up rather than pushing down, if you're 10 stone thats the max pressure you can put on a bar but by pulling up you can double/treble that force.

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Quote: Originally posted by Pickled Onion on 18/5/2009

I have just purchased a torque wrench from Screwfix at £14.51, is a more substantial piece of kit that will will torque up a nut to 120 Newtons on the gauge. Not bad value for the price and I believe Argos do the same unit for £20.

Dave.





Thanks for the tip. I bought one this afternoon from my local Screwfix, it's about 150 yards from my front door.

I wish you could have bought them for that price 30-40 years ago.







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19/5/2009 at 8:42pm
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The engaging socket and extending arm for the motormover do a fine job for me.


19/5/2009 at 8:45pm
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Which of these Alko tools are we talking about?

1) the "293398 - Combi Brace"
Can be used to undo wheel nuts/bolts and folds out to become a corner steady brace.

2)or the "295089 - Steady Brace"
For use on corner steady nuts to raise/lower corner steadies.

3)or the "376911 - Wheel Spanner"
Black powder coated wheel spanner suitable for 19 mm wheel bolts/nuts.

Our van came with the Alko Steady Brace but a Draper 19mm socket tool with a long telescopic handle for the wheel bolts.



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