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27/10/2009 at 6:50pm
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Hi - been testing out my new (2005) van today. I have sorted most things but am having trouble with my water heater. When I switch it on via the rocker switch, I hear it come on and the green light comes on. Then after about 7 or 8 seconds the red failure light comes on.

I'm running on mains lectric (not tried it on gas yet), the water is coming out of the hot tap so I'm presuming that means its full. I've switched it off and left it for a while and tried again and the same happens.

Can anyone suggest anything that I might have done wrong or something else to try please?


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yeah here is something you may not have done, did you bleed the air out the frist time when you connected the water up? you will know when the air is out as it will stop spitting at the taps and turn all the taps on to do this properly.


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27/10/2009 at 6:53pm
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You need to remove the outer cover if running on gas, as there is a failsafe device to prevent running on gas if not poperly ventilated.

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27/10/2009 at 7:04pm
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I didn't bleed the air out when I first connected the water but I presumed there's no air probs or air lock as the water runs smoothly - there was no spitting at all.

I wasn't sure if the outer cover needed to be removed on mains electric so removed it to be sure - but still no joy.


27/10/2009 at 7:11pm
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If you are running the water heater on mains....the red light WILL be on. The red light is for when you are running it off the gas.....we only discovered this ourselves after having our current van for it's 4th season. I happened to phone the dealer about a problem regarding the heater....he then queried something about my problem.

If the green light is on....and the red light is on.....you'll have hot water!!!


[oh and our gas bottle has lasted a very long time!!!!]

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well if i was you then i would drop the water out and start again bleeding it properly this time.


27/10/2009 at 7:19pm
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Confusion has been created over this outside cover even though you said clearly you were running on electric.

On electric you do not need to remove the cover. On gas you do need to remove the cover.



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27/10/2009 at 8:00pm
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ok, so the red light is meant to be on - even though it is called a 'failure' light - and indicates an error???? Is that correct?


27/10/2009 at 8:00pm
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We have had the same problem with ours on electric, We have 2 knobs side by side (outer on/off and inner for thermastat for electric and on/off and temperature for gas) at eye level and at ground level 2 separate rocker switches marked, Thermastore and Thermaheat.  For the water to be heated by electric we turned the knob on, wattage to 500w and when we switched the rocker switch on the thermaheat the green light came on on the upper level knob and red light glowed on the rocker switch but the water did not heat.  We then did as above but also pressed the rocker switch on on the thermastore as well, lo and behold in half an hour we had very hot water!   Why?

On gas we just select the temperature dial then the on position and if gas is coming through ok it shows green light on the dial. If the gas is not getting though it will turn red in 10 seconds or so. 

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27/10/2009 at 8:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Missizippi on 27/10/2009ok, so the red light is meant to be on - even though it is called a 'failure' light - and indicates an error???? Is that correct?


The red light is the gas failure light. So if you are running the water heater off the mains....there's no need for the gas.

So yep...try it and see....check your water after about 1/2 an hour with the green light on and the red light on....it's hot. That was a complete revelation to us too [oh and it was only this spring that we found it out ....and we are about to sell our wee van]



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27/10/2009 at 8:12pm
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Pippa

When you use the hot water by electric you do not need to touch the dial at all this is for the gas operation only. Heating by electric should simply be a matter of switching the emersion heater on? Well this is the case for caravans I have seen and owned.



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27/10/2009 at 8:26pm
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just been out to check mine. There are two controls adjacent to each other. The rocker switch with red light above. Turn this switch on for electric heating. Red light will come on to show it is working.

The adjacent control labelled "truma ultrastore" is for gas operation only.

for gas operation remove external cover. ensure gas is on, select temperature on rotary knob, switch on the small slide switch (slides up to on position). green indicator lamp "operation" lights up.

If there is air in the gas supply it may take a minute to light up. if the appliance switches to "failure" during this period switch off the appliance & wait 5 mins then switch on again.

This is all as per the instruction book in my hand. For a 2005 van I am surprised you didn't get all the books

 



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27/10/2009 at 8:57pm
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Hi Steve - we did get all the manuals with the van - I've read them and better read them plus worked through all the troubleshooting today but when a manual says that its a failure light and doesn't specifically say gas failure light - I didn't want to leave it on incase I did some damage. I'm a total newbie to caravanning and am proceeding with caution!

Anyway, you guys gave me the confidence to leave it on and hey presto we now have hot water! So thanks for all your help and advice.

I am sat in the van on my parents drive with my 3 kids giving it its first test. Now we know everything works I might have the courage to tow it somewhere and try camping properly!!

Thanks again xx


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When you get back & possibly prepare to leave it for winter don't forget to drain it all fully. I didn't first time & needed new taps in the spring.

Drain hot water tank you will have a drain tap close to it

Drain taps ( put them up in central position

Empty toilet & flush

Drain shower pipes

If I have forgotten anything someone will be along in a minute to correct me.

Have fun



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27/10/2009 at 10:35pm
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Thanks - its a learning curve for me but a fun one!

When not being used - should the fridge be left closed or open?



27/10/2009 at 10:55pm
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You can leave the fridge door ajar by propping open with a latch near door catch which keeps it open 2-3cm to keep air circulating around and stop mold etc.

Good luck



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