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Quote: Originally posted by John Evans on 11/1/2010

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I got a new Pageant last year, so It'll be a while before I look at a new van

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We got a new Provence series7 last summer as well John, very nice it is too. Same to see the end of the Senator though, they just always seem to have been there don't they.

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Quote: Originally posted by alan126 on 11/1/2010

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the olympus is replacing the pageant, how long until the ranger is replaced with alu-tech. also how long until explorer and swift use a simalar construction. give it a year and the bonded sandwich will be a thing of the past

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Blimey, I wasn't expecting to see the Pageant go it, like the Senator ust seems to have always been around. I suppose they'll want to run one build process so will want all ranges built the same way. Never mind, our Pageant should last us a while yet.

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thing is the layouts are pants, 4 berth van with the washroom across the back?? means anyone sleeping up front that wants a leak during the night wakes up the folk kipping in the fixed bed. they look good, they seem to be glued and screwed together well but they need a wee bit of innovation for layouts

as for resale values, a 1 or 2 year old sandwich construction van will be taking a hit compared to alu-tech. run them until they fall to bits. amazes me why folk change vans every few years, wasting money imo, unless it is essential like having more kids

Quote: Originally posted by alan126 on 11/1/2010

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thing is the layouts are pants, 4 berth van with the washroom across the back?? means anyone sleeping up front that wants a leak during the night wakes up the folk kipping in the fixed bed. they look good, they seem to be glued and screwed together well but they need a wee bit of innovation for layouts

as for resale values, a 1 or 2 year old sandwich construction van will be taking a hit compared to alu-tech. run them until they fall to bits. amazes me why folk change vans every few years, wasting money imo, unless it is essential like having more kids

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perhaps it is my tenters mindset here but i can appreciate that probably the majority of 4 berth fixed bed vans are used as 2 berth

okay if i was buying 1 here is my idea, island fixed bed, washroom in the middle with seperate shower, 1 person can shower while other (does what 1 does on the loo lol) kitchen with 2 gas burners and induction electric hob, all in one grill/oven not too big, microwave mounted low down. lounge with space for 6 to sit in confort, built in mp3 with plenty of speakers and cable connection to laptop for sound. spare wheel not mounted in alko carrier under the van, good jacking points, mover built in as part of build, solar panels built into roof to charge battery if not on EHU

The old enemies of weight and restricted space conspire against caravan designers at every turn.

And adding expensive extras that most people don't want (such as solar panels) isn't the way to go - unless they are optional. Buyers should be able to personalise caravans far more - they are built to order, after all.

We always liked the Senators, but have ordered a new Pegasus 534.

Our Pageant 7 is only 18 months old, but we were very impressed with the Pegasus and the cost to change was not much so went for it!

Plus I may retire in a couple of years so its worth buying now while we have the income!