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27/1/2010 at 7:01pm
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Can anyone tell me the law regarding keeping a caravan on the road in a legitimate parking space? Unoccupied, near your own property? Thanks, Anne

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caravans cannot be left alone on the road,only if they are attached to a car thats fit for the road. unless its a private road then im unsure.

mike



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27/1/2010 at 7:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by mikecandsarhab on 27/1/2010

caravans cannot be left alone on the road,only if they are attached to a car thats fit for the road. unless its a private road then im unsure.

mike



Thanks Mike. I just see so many parked up and they seem to be there for long periods at a time.
Won't risk it if it is illegal!!
Anne

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27/1/2010 at 7:46pm
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sometimes there left alone as either police/council dont care and have more important things or knowones bothered by them so theve not been reported.

i would expect the police or council would just ask/tell you to move it.and wouldnt fine or arrest you,

i personally would like mine on the road as it just wouldnt feel safe sat there even with locka and clamps.

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27/1/2010 at 9:45pm
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Parking
Do not park your caravan:
 • where it may cause an obstruction
 • at night on a road without lights
 • in street parking bays as some local laws forbid this
 • at a parking meter, as caravans are not permitted
 • unless securely braked or chocked to prevent movement



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27/1/2010 at 10:09pm
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No way would i leave mine on the road, just in case of a dopey driver decides to hit it.



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27/1/2010 at 10:50pm
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Reading this post has got me thinking.

I unhitch my van on the road and use the mover to park it on my drive.

Does my caravan then become a motor vehicle?

It hasnt got any road tax, MOT, but is insured, but not to be "driven".
Is this legal?



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27/1/2010 at 11:45pm
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Probably comes under the same (lax) regulations as a mobility scooter, but I seem to remember "pedestrian controlled vehicle" being listed on the old county-issued (booklet type) driving licences.


28/1/2010 at 12:03am
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I think it does become a pedestrian controlled vehicle.  Not sure what else it could be.  I don't think there are any licence problems, but insurance is surely a difficulty.

Most caravans are insured separately for damage caused to them.  However, the "road" risks are usually carried by your car's insurance.  In the same way a caravan cannot be left on the road without being connected to a car, I think there may well be problems if you are "driving" the caravan without the protection of your car's insurance.

In the event of a collision, for example, with a passing car, I could well imagine that when you were unable to produce insurance details, the police would be quite interested.

I may be wrong, and I suspect that it would take a test case to find out.

I would never unhitch my caravn on the public road and, even if I had a motor mover, I would use it on site only.

No doubt we'll hear other opinions shortly.

Jim



28/1/2010 at 5:00am
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Gone in sixty seconds.(it would be if ours was left on the road)

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28/1/2010 at 7:54am
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Surely the common sense view should be to consider this as 2 different situations -

1. Caravans stored on a public road which will contravene parking bylaws and probably invalidate insurance.

2 Caravans temporarily parked on a public road, whilst hitching and loading etc. which is surely perfectly acceptable.



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A caravan on a road not hitched to a motor vehicle is classed as a trailer. Once hitched to your car the whole unit is a motor vehicle.
A caravan on a road being driven by a "motor mover" is still a trailer. The rules applicable to trailers are then relevant.



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28/1/2010 at 9:06am
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pedestrian controlled vehicle is a k on new licences (I have it, passed 2007) I know things changed again in 2001 IIRC when the moped bit was taken off.


28/1/2010 at 9:21am
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Jeepster, how can it be a trailer?  Trailers aren't powered, and it is capable of being driven.  I know it's unlikely, but in the event that you happened to trap a pedestrian against your gatepost, or break his leg, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't have any insurance.

For those old enough to remember, there was a case involving a milkman in Blackburn who couldn't pass the eyesight test for a licence to drive his electric milk float.  It was the kind you pull behind you, assisted by an electric motor.

It was smaller than a caravan, and didn't go any faster.  I don't see where the difference is. I also remember it didn't attract road tax, but had to have a number plate.

I would certainly like to hear the DVLA's point of view.  It seems like they still issue group K with the latest licences, so there shouldn't be a licence issue, but I'm pretty confident you would need to insure it separately for driving it.

Jim



28/1/2010 at 10:22am
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You may find this interesting.  That was all about something weighing 8cwt or, as we might say these days, 407Kg.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1963/may/29/pedestrian-controlled-vehicles

I am sure you need insurance to do this.  Interesting point about the lighting regulations too.  I wonder what the Caravan Club has to say.  I don't know whether I'm right or wrong, but it could be a big problem.

Jim

 



28/1/2010 at 12:11pm
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http://www.practicalcaravan.com/legal/index.html

www.ntta.co.uk/law/

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