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29/4/2010 at 10:38pm
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but bear with me I'm new!!

So question is will the leisure battery on my van gather charge as it is plugged into mains? Tried to use lights on battery tonight and nothing completely dead but as van hasnt been used for 2 years this doesnt surprise me but if I plug the van into the mains on the drive will this then charge up the battery or do I need a seperate charger? and do I need to switch the switch inside the van to battery while its charging?

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29/4/2010 at 10:48pm
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Depends, to make sure take the battery out and charge it . Two years is a long time to leave a battery in a van connected without any maintenance.It probably wont take a charge after that period of time.To see if the van has a charger put a volt metre across the battery terminals when the van is connected to the 240 volts,you should get a reading around 3 to 6 amps A lecky will give you more advice ,one will soon reply to your question and give you more griff. 



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29/4/2010 at 10:50pm
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So would I need to buy a battery charger to do this with?

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29/4/2010 at 10:59pm
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If you get a reading, no, it means you have a built in charger.

 



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29/4/2010 at 11:00pm
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a reading on what? (am soooo sorry if am being thick!)

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29/4/2010 at 11:05pm
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Avolt metre

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29/4/2010 at 11:07pm
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Cool thanks will ask around see if anyone has one.

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29/4/2010 at 11:10pm
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wait till someone with more  knowledge than me comes to your aid What make is your van and what year is it ?Someone who has the same model and year as yours will put you on the right track

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29/4/2010 at 11:13pm
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She's an older lady - a 1992 Swift Challenger 490-5

Ive yet to open up the battery box (accessable from the outside which is handy) and look whats in there!!



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29/4/2010 at 11:58pm
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Probably 90% of faults with 12v electrics on a caravan can be traced directly back to the battery. Leisure batteries need TLC so my gut feeling is that you battery has felt so neglected it has curled up its tootsies and died. Many folks make the mistake of thinking that their battery is topped up when travelling and when on mains power and this is true but only to a point.
The charger in the van is not designed to take your battery up to optimum charge, in fact it will only take it to about 75 - 80%. To get the best out of a leisure battery which is a deep-cycle battery (particularly one that powers motor movers) the battery needs to be periodically charged with a multistage charger. A standard car battery charger will only achieve about 85% so is not ideal.

But in answer to your original question, I would not count on your battery doing what you need it to. Sorry.
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30/4/2010 at 12:18am
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I had the same problem with my battery last weeeknd. It worked fine the weekend before. we were on ehu as well.

Hubby put jump leads on the caravan battery and attached to our transit van, run the engine for a few minutes and then we had some charge in the battery. but only about 10. before this it was less than 8. we have a little guage inside the caravan that shows the state of the battery. its by the switches for the pump etc.

It gave enough power to run the lights for the rest of the weekend . A friend told us to switch off the pump, and only use the switch when we needed the water, to try to give it a chance to build up some charge from the ehu on site.

we put the batery on a charger at home , and tried it in the caravan today and it now looks like its almost fully charged. Whether it will hold the charge next time though ? we will have to wait and see.

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30/4/2010 at 12:42am
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Quote: Originally posted by mrshorsy on 29/4/2010
So would I need to buy a battery charger to do this with?


If the van has been standing for two years, you might need another battery.

Andrew


30/4/2010 at 3:42am
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Hi Mrshorsy,The 12v system in the caravan is supplied from a power supply unit in the caravan (PSU) this also charges the battery when you are on mains electric hook up,but it will only charge a battery to aprox 80%. Providing the van control panel switches are in the correct position you should get a 12v supply in the caravan even without a battery fitted. as your battery has been standing for 2 years it is probably U S.You could try a MULTI stage charger (also known as Smart chargers) that has a PULSE charge facility this may revitalise the battery over several days of charging. a charger such as the C-Tek xs3600 would be a good investment as it will charge a battery fully & revitalise it & a battery can be left on charge over winter with no damage.A good buy is the ALDI & Lidle chargers at £14 when they are available.

Its advisable to fully charge a caravan battery using such a charger 3 monthly In order to keep it in top condition,personaly I use such a charger each time I return from a spell away

By the way even if you buy a new battery it will need boost charging to full capacity before use & the caravan charger will not do this



30/4/2010 at 5:22am
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Told you mrshorsy you would get some in that knew what they were talking about. Good luck

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I had 2 batteries on a truck that had been left standing in a flattened state for nearly 4 years, I put the charger on them and they accepted a charge and are now quite happily starting a diesel truck...


So the morel is have a try at charging it with a charger if it doesn't accept a charge you haven't lost anything if it does accept a charge you've saved yourself the cost of a battery.


Oh and the o-board charger is probably not good enough to charge a flat battery neither is it meant to do that

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The way car/truck batteries disgorges their power is very different to that of a deep cycle leisure battery. What your car needs to start it is a one-off belt of power to kick over the starter. Once this has been achieved there is still draw on the battery but it is quite low and the journey is hopefully enough to keep it topped up ready for its next start. Leisure batteries are much different in that they they are required to supply a lower output (compared to starting a car)but for a much extended period of time, and when they fail that period of time lessens hugely... ask someone with motor movers whose battery is past its best. You can charge your leisure battery with a normal car charger of course, but it will not achieve its full potential and you must never use the fast charge/boost setting. It will kill the battery. Use trickle charge only.



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