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Subject Topic: Used Hobby advice please.
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06/5/2010 at 10:48pm
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Hi Wife likes Hobby vans any-one got advice based on experiance of these, it will unfortunatly need to be a used van.


06/5/2010 at 11:14pm
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have you been inside one? tbh we always thought we liked them until we actually went inside one then decided we didnt like them at all (sorry to any hobby owners) have you looked at fendts another german make simaler in some ways but i think they look a lot better

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07/5/2010 at 8:15am
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Just check the length as some models (more than 7m long) can only be pulled with a vehicle weighing in at 3501+ Kg

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Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 07/5/2010

Just check the length as some models (more than 7m long) can only be pulled with a vehicle weighing in at 3501+ Kg

Phil





The correct wording is a vehicle of gross weight over 3500kg not as you put it which seems to imply a vehicle with a kerb weight of 3001kg.





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07/5/2010 at 11:45am
 Location: Germany (again)
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As with ANY used caravan, check for damp! Do not think it is above such things, just because it is a German caravan and in some users' opinion probably somewhat better designed as some British builds. Look for mould/ damp patches at the bottom corners, inside chests, around windows.

If it has the all-plastic front, look out for small cracks. I vaguely remember, this was an issue (not necessarily with Hobby), when plastic-fronts were introduced some time ago.

If there are any folding tables, have a look at the legs. In mine they are below the overall standard of the van, to put it mildly (but this can be fixed)... Cupboards and drawers: do they close reliably? They are normally only held by springs, not by push-locks and might have become somewhat tired.

Otherwise they are quite reliable. Never had any serious trouble with mine.



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07/5/2010 at 1:37pm
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Correct Mr RC. OP when you are looking at a Hobby and considering the 7m length issue, ask the seller what the length is excluding the coupling device and draw bar. If the van has a protective box mounted on the front, supported by the draw bar for the purposes of storing gas, for example, then that box is also excluded from the computation of the overall length.

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07/5/2010 at 2:52pm
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Also need to consider history, Hobbies are popular for living in f/t and on seasonal pitches so you could find high levels of wear.

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07/5/2010 at 4:25pm
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If you are buying secondhand and not from a reputable dealer it might be wise to establish that the person selling the van can prove ownership particularly if buying from the likes of e-bay.

David



07/5/2010 at 4:43pm
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id even look into it at a dealer, we went to a hobby 'dealer' once, very dodgy looking... we didnt go back put it that way

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07/5/2010 at 5:47pm
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Thank you all, very interesting,

Last night I read a couple of items suggesting that some site's were not too happy to see these vans turn up and might even exclude them,  not so sure now as when we are on the UK mainland we travel huge distance, it would be a disappointment to find a problem when arriving after a long pull.



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07/5/2010 at 6:21pm
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"Last night I read a couple of items suggesting that some site's were not too happy to see these vans turn up and might even exclude them,  not so sure now as when we are on the UK mainland we travel huge distance, it would be a disappointment to find a problem when arriving after a long pull."

I think its just a case of recognising that some sites may not wish to accept the larger Hobby especially if it is being towed by a truck or other vehicle with a gross weight in excess of 3500Kg and just ask if its OK when you book. Was at Haws the other week and there was a Hobby your average Bailey Senator kind of size

 

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Hobby's are at best very misunderstood by people that have never owned one, which has created a huge range of myths about them.

Contrary to seemingly popular belief at the moment Hobbys come in a range of sizes, many over 2.3 metres wide, some under 2.3 metres wide and a few over 7 metres long. It is now no longer illegal to tow a trailer over 2.3 metres wide as the UK has now come into line with the EU directives on trailers.

There are of course many layouts available throughout the range and so one is likely to suit you. You will find that much of the furniture utilizes solid wood doors. There is one thing to be aware of and that is the "dry" van, many Hobbys are described as dry vans and this simply means that there is no water within the van, that is: no sink, no toilet, no basin and no shower. However there are Hobbys with all of these facilities included.

Damp myth:

Damp can be caused in a number of ways - top of the list in the hidden section is lack of ventilation, close up your ventilation holes in a Hobby and you will generate damp over time. Water ingress: Hobbys are very well sealed on joins; awning rails have rubber seals as well as a mastic bedding so water rarely gets in fueling the myth that Hobbys don't suffer from damp, this is quite true until the rail gets damaged or has been damaged in the past and gets left without inspection or repair. Another place where water will get in is around accessories like the EHU socket or the fridge vents or even a locker box.
Perhaps because people think Hobbys don't get damp they never think to check for it.

Theft myth:

Many people will tell you that Hobbys are stolen more often than a UK van and then finding their way into traveler's camps - I personally have never seen one in a traveler's camp, mostly UK vans - never a Hobby - that is of course not to say that Hobbys are never to be found in said places (also must be said that a van of any type in a traveler's camp is not necessarily stolen). Like all caravans if you have insurance and security you should have nothing to worry about.


A Hobby, being solidly built with solid wood doors is going to be heavy, so you will need a bigger car to tow it with. However a Hobby is argumentatively more stable to tow as it has a longer draw bar than a UK caravan thus allowing the tow vehicle to have a greater damping effect when the side of the caravan is buffeted by air streams.

On occasion you may find sites bearing cardboard signs bearing the words NO HOBBYS crudely painted on them. The standard of the sign shows the standard of the site, so it won't be one you would be likely to stay on anyway (would be interesting if Hobby ever changed their name to BLACK )

Incidentally although I've referred to Hobbys the above would also apply to other German caravans as well - Burstner, Caravelair, Dethleffs, Fendt, Knaus, Lord, LMC, Munsterland, Tabbert, TEC, Weippert, Wilk, - and of course the UK's Roma

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Hobby good, Kabe better.


07/5/2010 at 11:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Sheltie on 07/5/2010

Thank you all, very interesting,

Last night I read a couple of items suggesting that some site's were not too happy to see these vans turn up and might even exclude them,  not so sure now as when we are on the UK mainland we travel huge distance, it would be a disappointment to find a problem when arriving after a long pull.


You won't have any problems on sites belonging to either of the main Clubs

David



08/5/2010 at 12:05am
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Thats also interesting, thanks,  Must stress that I do not mean to slate the make so to speak just seeking information and advice.


08/5/2010 at 1:50am
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Quote: Originally posted by Rune Caster on 07/5/2010
Hobby's are at best very misunderstood by people that have never owned one, which has created a huge range of myths about them.

Contrary to seemingly popular belief at the moment Hobbys come in a range of sizes, many over 2.3 metres wide, some under 2.3 metres wide and a few over 7 metres long. It is now no longer illegal to tow a trailer over 2.3 metres wide as the UK has now come into line with the EU directives on trailers.

There are of course many layouts available throughout the range and so one is likely to suit you. You will find that much of the furniture utilizes solid wood doors.


RC, great post. Did I mention my Hobby is 684cm long (without drawbar)and 230 cm wide? And we've taken it everywhere. Through the Highlands, across Mull, around the Ring of Kerry... No complaints at all.
And we have never been turned away by any site we wanted to visit.



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