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08/6/2010 at 10:52pm
Location: swansea Outfit: Avondale corfu sunvalley 8
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Our battery left us with no power to the water pump again this weekend.
we hadn't even used a full aquaroll's worth of water , didnt use the lights at all, we were on hookup and used mains lighting .
It was charged almost to the max , but not quite.
We went friday afternoon and the battery was dead by saturday night. before I go and buy a new one, I will charge it up to the max and try again this weekend .
Question is, we have a battery switch on the control panel. says , car , caravan or off.
if its left on CARAVAN the whole time, would this drain the battery, or not? should I be switching this to off when not using the pump or lights ?
also same question for the pump and light switches on the panel? should they be OFF unless being used , ie after every time we turn the lights or taps on then off again , switch it off at the panel as well?
------------- Debbie
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09/6/2010 at 8:46am
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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 09/6/2010
The pump switch on the Zig Unit should be switched off at night. The reason for this is that if there is a leak inthe system, this would drop the pressure in the pipes, exactly the same way as it would if you turned on a tap. The pressure switch, sensing a drop in pressure, would switch on the pump. Then any leak would get pressurized and continue to flow until the aquaroll was empty. Then the pump would continue to run dry until it burnt out.
Any light switch on the Zig Unit can be left on while the van is occupied.
You do not say how old your caravan battery is but I would not expect any caravan battery to still be A1 after 3 years, although I am sure that some do remain so. It sounds to me as if one of the cells in your battery is failing. Best to get it checked out at a garage that has such test facilities.
If you have to turn the pump of at night for this reason you would have to do it every time you went out just in case it leaks as you would not be there when it did.
I would rather hear the pump going and sort it out
Turn it all on and leave it on.
No power is taken from the car battery when it is not running so you can leave it hooked to the car as long as you like.
The fridge does not use 12v from the caravan only from the car
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09/6/2010 at 12:29pm
Location: Argyll Scotland Outfit: 1997 Bailey Ranger 470 4
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You can only but try the other car battery and see if it will work.
As for turning off the 12v at a master switch, well many modern vans have Alarms and Tracker Systems which mean that the 12v system can never be turned off.
Switching off the Pump at the Zig Unit is for your own peace of mind. That is why the folks who manufacture Zig Units and those who manufacture caravans and therefore wire them up, that have their pumps connected to switches at the Zig Unit, put them there in the first place. Caravan Owners who ignore these switches do so at their own risk. Personally I would rather have the peace of mind than a flooded van.
Fitting another battery that you know to be working properly is certainy the first step in tracing where the problem actually lies. Having had a number of secondhand units, I would say the 5 times out of 6, the battery was at fault, but once it was the Charging Unit and that cost me about £70 to replace. That was some 5 years ago so it will be more now.
Also, just because there is a problem, do not presume that there is only one problem. there could be a number of them. Caravans "shoogle" when being towed and 12v wiring can cause a lot of problems, especially as it gets older. Corrosion leading to bad earths, damage, dampness, short circuits and neglect can all cause problems that seem to point to malfunctioning units when in fact it is the wiring that is at fault.
Either invest in a Haynes Caravan Manual and some Test Equipment or get a qualified Caravan Service Engineer in to trace and sort out your problems. It could save you money and it will certainly save you frustration.
Not all caravans are set up the same. Mine has neither a Zig Unit nor a Master Switch, although I have had these on previous vans and campervans. So much of the information you get on here may be irrelevant to your particular problems and really you need to get someone who knows, to have a look at your own van.
------------- Lobey.
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09/6/2010 at 1:04pm
Location: NW of Glasgow Outfit: Sterling Searcher 2008 Volvo XC90
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The car/van switch can operate in different ways depending on your van, so always follow the advice in the handbook as to how to position it when towing.
However, there are a few basics that should be the same, assuming that your car/van plug, and the car itself, are correctly wired.
The 12v on the fridge should NEVER draw the operating power from the van battery.
The 12v on the fridge should only draw power from the car when the ignition is ON, often only when the engine is running at high enough revs.
Post 1997/8 vans were fitted with a habitation relay, so when hooked to the car, WITH IGNITION ON, there is no 12v power to the van from the car, other than the fridge.
When plugged into the car, with the switch on "CAR", ignition OFF, you can use from the car battery to run lights, pump etc. This should only be used in an emergency to avoid flattening the car battery.
Lobey should ignore this as he has a pretty unique van!!
------------- Jennifer
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