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25/9/2010 at 9:59pm
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Hi all.
Havent posted for a while but had lots of help off here as a caravan "newbie" 18 months ago and i think nearly every site we have visited has been sourced off here
We have now sold our 19 year old "starter" van and are ready to upgrade (bailey pageant provence 2007)and are looking at a private deal.
Now what im asking, is how and where do you check out a private owned van is legit, as in outstanding debt, insurance claims, stolen recovered etc.
Bought many cars privately and had them HPI,d and the AA checks. Seen a few traders selling vans with CRIS registration. What is this, and is that what i need to get done?
Thanks for any help. Could be buying this coming week so need to get my finger out on this!
Regards Graham.


25/9/2010 at 10:08pm
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this website here will be your source gray,g
http://www.hpicheck.com/caravans.html

good luck with your purchase,hope it goes hassle free for you

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25/9/2010 at 10:19pm
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Hi, this may help too

50 CRiS Explained
Details of the Caravan Registration & Identification Scheme

Cheers  Ratty



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25/9/2010 at 10:55pm
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more help here.

50 Buying Secondhand



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26/9/2010 at 9:11am
 Location: crewe cheshire
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Thanks for the prompt replys.
I feel in a better position, now im all clued up.
Hoping to view a van later this week, so will check it out with CRIS first.
I will let you know how we go on
Graham.


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26/9/2010 at 9:45am
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I may be saying something you know but a damp meter is essential.

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26/9/2010 at 10:32am
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Quote: Originally posted by misterg on 26/9/2010
I may be saying something you know but a damp meter is essential.

Well after reading the buyers guide i do now.
Must admit, wasn't overly concerned about damp in a 3 year old van but maybe i should be!
Just referring back to the CRIS...if the buyer tells me its registered and shows me the document when i visit, is that enough? Or do i ring CRIS and do the £15 check up? Im thinking its the later, as this tells me if hes telling me the truth.
Graham.


26/9/2010 at 11:01am
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Check the documents relate to the van - the same Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) will be on each of the windows and the chassis. Phone CRIS with the VIN to check it out.

Any UK van built after 1992 should be registered and CRIS should have details of owner, insurance claims and outstanding HP debts

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26/9/2010 at 11:57am
 Location: Keswick
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As its three years old, have a look at the original warranty and see if it can be assigned on to you for the balance of the warranty term. If it can, assign it in accordance with the terms set out in the warranty agreement. Ask to see the service history. The caravan handbook should have each annual service recorded by the dealers' stamp and dated with the date of service. The seller may have all original service documents. That way you will know it has been looked after and that the terms of the warrantyhave been complied with.

This may assist (five posts down)

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=8&TopicID=229452&PagePosition=2

All helps to know that the sale is "legit"

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01/10/2010 at 8:36am
 Location: crewe cheshire
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Hi all, just a quick update.
Everythings set up for me to see the van this Sunday.
Done the HPI over the phone and its all good.
Purchased a Rapitest damp meter from Amazon and have filed the spikes sharper.
It has an Alko tow and stabilizer. The guy has asked if ive got an Alko tow ball. I havent, ive got a standard tow ball. He says it dosent matter and it will tow ok but will be noisy, then i can get an Alko later. Looking at the Alko tow balls ive seen they are "specially extended" to fit the Alko tow. Im now worrying in case i wont be able to hitch the van to mine?
Had a look in the towing section and apologize if i should of asked this question in there but thought i may as well add it to this thread.
Regards Graham.


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01/10/2010 at 9:39am
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Selling a caravan - "He says it dosent matter and it will tow ok "

Well he would wouldn't he?

If you do not have the right tow ball for the caravan you may possibly get into difficulties with your insurers in the event of any accident and a claim arises. There is the potential for the unit to become unhitched with the wrong tow ball. Halford sell alko compatible balls which may help. No doubt someone with an alko hitch (mine's a winterhoff) will come along and put you straight on their use. I would have a little read of this from which you may conclude that your tow ball will not be compliant.

http://www.al-ko.co.uk/edit/files/support/Towballguide.pdf

Then there is the Road Vehicles (Construction and use) Regs to consider. That's about safety of the whole unit (car and van) on the road. Driving an unroadworthy/unsafe vehicle (car and caravan) can lead to a fine of up to £2500 and three penalty points.

Then there is always the potential for damage to your hitch head by using the wrong ball. Thats a potential additional expense.

Best advice is to get it right

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01/10/2010 at 9:43am
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phil is correct ...change your towball before you collect the caravan as they have been known to disconnect over a bump



01/10/2010 at 10:49am
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You must change your towball for an Alko extended neck , If you do not you risk damaging the coupling head and as said in previous post it may come adrift from your car which could have serious implications .
Also if the van has missed a service the remaining 3 years of warranty will be null and void should any water ingression occur


01/10/2010 at 10:52am
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I had a tow bar fitted recently at a reputable firm - I think the alko towball is only about £25.  Have you thought of taking an MCEA approved engineer with you to inspect we did this in July and he was brilliant (even went through how everything works etc with us) only £60 and worth every penny - he spent at least 15minutes with the damp meter and knew precisely how & where to poke it.  Have a look on MCEA website for your nearest engineer - not a lot of money to spend on such a new caravan and ours was available at short notice.


02/10/2010 at 7:07pm
 Location: crewe cheshire
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Right, im all sorted for the 2.5 hour trip to Carlisle tomorrow to check out this van.
Got the extended neck tow ball from Halfords today for £23
Removed the black paint from the ball(more advice learned off here!)so it doesnt wreck the friction pads.
Hopefully il be towing a Pageant Provence back home, but if its not up to scratch i wont be "sucked in", so to speak!


03/10/2010 at 9:08am
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Good luck - nice van



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