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Subject Topic: Are the days of the Pegasus numbered??
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01/11/2010 at 10:38am
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I went into a caravan shop while away last week and started to chat with the local salesman about the new Bailey Alu-tech vans.  I asked him how the sales were going and he said that sales for the Olympus were fine, excellent for the Unicorn, but sales for the Pegasus had dropped off since the Unicorn had appeared.  After further conversation, he went on to say that the interesting thing was that at the moment Bailey have build dates diaried for the Olympus and the Unicorn but not for the Pegasus.  After further converstion we both seemed to think that in the past, when builds were not in the diary, that has signalled the end for that particular model.  I just wonder if the days of the Pegasus are numbered?

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01/11/2010 at 11:25am
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quite possible but they tend to lean towards what is ordered when going into production.

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01/11/2010 at 11:55am
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Do you think just having two ranges would be enough?
It would realy limit them surely?

In my opinion I think they should have kept a conventional range, at least while the Alutec found it's feet, i.e Ranger which was hugely popular or Pageant.

I suspect though that it keeps down
manufacturing costs if they are all of the same construction.


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01/11/2010 at 12:55pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Janx on 01/11/2010
Do you think just having two ranges would be enough?
It would realy limit them surely?

In my opinion I think they should have kept a conventional range, at least while the Alutec found it's feet, i.e Ranger which was hugely popular or Pageant.

I suspect though that it keeps down
manufacturing costs if they are all of the same construction.

I agree with all you have said here, Janx, but they stopped traditional construction because not enough folk 'showed interest' in them.  I also heard that they were considering bringing out a 'Ranger equivalent' alu-tech.  That was, however, at the same time as I heard that Pegasus replaced Senator, Olympus replaced Pageant and the Unicorn was a special/limited edition.

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01/11/2010 at 12:58pm
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isnt the ranger replacement due out in february?

i think the gap between olympus and unicorn is too big not to have a model in between  . ie pegasus....but what do i know ? 



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01/11/2010 at 1:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bev+jon on 01/11/2010

isnt the ranger replacement due out in february?

i think the gap between olympus and unicorn is too big not to have a model in between  . ie pegasus....but what do i know ? 


Didn't know it was due out in February.  I await with interest to see what Bailey are going to do with the new van.  I wonder if they will keep the 'thinner' Olympus dimentions?  Is there really a market for two thinner range vans?

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01/11/2010 at 11:30pm
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The ranger replacement is apparently due to be announced early next year but no real details are out yet.


02/11/2010 at 8:01am
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supposed to be viewable at the Feb NEC show i heard


05/11/2010 at 8:36am
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There are no 6 birth layouts in the Unicorn yet.

If the Unicorn is going to be a special edition (like the GT60 was 3 years ago, yet is still on Bailey's website!!!), then perhaps they are doing a build run before phasing it out.

Perhaps the Pegasus is going to get a mid life refresh. I noticed that the Unicorn has lost the folding table leafs so perhaps the Pegasus II will be styled more like the Olympus, yet keep its equipment levels.  I agree that the gap between the Olympus & the Unicorn is too large.



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05/11/2010 at 4:30pm
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What we've got in Pegasus is Alu-Tech 1.0. The Olympus is 1.1 and Unicorn is 1.2. The Peggy is already looking out of date on the inside, and needs updating and the price point needs adjusting to maintain Bailey's rep for making good value-for-money vans.

In the past, caravans would be introduced and stay in production, largely unchanged, for years. Now they change from year to year. It's like the iPhone - the early adopters get a revolutionary new product, but with some rough edges. Within just a few years it's developed, far exceeded the original design, and influenced the whole market. The Pegasus is the iPhone of the caravan world.

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Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 05/11/2010
The Pegasus is the iPhone of the caravan world.



Please don't insult Apple in this way - I doubt if any of Bailey's products reach the standard of a PC let alone Apple!!

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05/11/2010 at 7:02pm
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Nothing wrong with Bailey. I write as the owner of both Bailey and Apple products. And I mean Macs, not just iPods.

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06/11/2010 at 2:11pm
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There'll be a lot of unhappy owners if they do drop Pegasus from the line up. We weren't best pleased to find they were about to launch the series 6 Pageant when we picked up our new series 5 Provence, if we'd known the new model was about to run, we'd have cancelled ours. The same happened to us again not long after we bought our new Series 7 Provence, not long after they stopped the model altogether & released Alu-Tec ranges along with the increased prices which could mean we've bought our last new one. Our Series 7 will have to last us.

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06/11/2010 at 2:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Basilbrush on 06/11/2010
There'll be a lot of unhappy owners if they do drop Pegasus from the line up. We weren't best pleased to find they were about to launch the series 6 Pageant when we picked up our new series 5 Provence, if we'd known the new model was about to run, we'd have cancelled ours. The same happened to us again not long after we bought our new Series 7 Provence, not long after they stopped the model altogether & released Alu-Tec ranges along with the increased prices which could mean we've bought our last new one. Our Series 7 will have to last us.

BB


Same here BB.  But after saying that, we're really, really happy with our Sancerre and have absolutely no thoughts about changing at the present time.  I'm certainly not ready for alutech yet - too many doubts and questions and not enough money!!

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Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 05/11/2010


What we've got in Pegasus is Alu-Tech 1.0. The Olympus is 1.1 and Unicorn is 1.2. The Peggy is already looking out of date on the inside, and needs updating and the price point needs adjusting to maintain Bailey's rep for making good value-for-money vans.

In the past, caravans would be introduced and stay in production, largely unchanged, for years. Now they change from year to year. It's like the iPhone - the early adopters get a revolutionary new product, but with some rough edges. Within just a few years it's developed, far exceeded the original design, and influenced the whole market. The Pegasus is the iPhone of the caravan world.

Most manufacturers  make changes to their models every year but Bailey in the past have adopted the attitude of making changes every two years. I think Bailey will be dissappointed to hear that the Pegasus is beginning to look dated, it was supposed to be a big step forward and in just over a year it looks dated!



06/11/2010 at 9:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ad210358 on 06/11/2010

Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 05/11/2010


What we've got in Pegasus is Alu-Tech 1.0. The Olympus is 1.1 and Unicorn is 1.2. The Peggy is already looking out of date on the inside, and needs updating and the price point needs adjusting to maintain Bailey's rep for making good value-for-money vans.

In the past, caravans would be introduced and stay in production, largely unchanged, for years. Now they change from year to year. It's like the iPhone - the early adopters get a revolutionary new product, but with some rough edges. Within just a few years it's developed, far exceeded the original design, and influenced the whole market. The Pegasus is the iPhone of the caravan world.

<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Most manufacturers  make changes to their models every year but Bailey in the past have adopted the attitude of making changes every two years. I think Bailey will be dissappointed to hear that the Pegasus is beginning to look dated, it was supposed to be a big step forward and in just over a year it looks dated!




What on earth makes you think the Pegasus is looking dated inside? Ours (with Scorpio upholstery) is one of the most contemporary interior looks I've seen in a caravan.



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