after visiting the nec we were disapionted that none of the uk manufacturers have plans to produce wider caravans next season after the legislation change in may this year,with a wider shell more varied floorplans could be avaliaibe(have a look on german caravan manufacturers web sites),without going to a longer body,if the uk manufacturers want to compete in the european market surley this is the way forward,
I personally think it will be like our car and motorcycle industry we will do nothing untill the domestic market is flooded with well built cheaper more reliable vans then it will be to late,
just a thought
tony
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imagine trying to go from callender to killin etc with a wider caravan,can be done no doubt but white knuckle all the way incase a lorry swung round a bend going along side loch luibnaig ,im sure there are worse roads than that as hubby assures me there is ,no thanks keep wider vans permenately on a site thanks roads are scary enough by lorry drivers who think they own them
I am with Tony, I think the uk producers are missing an oppertuinity, but thats nothing unusual I think another problem for them is the manufacturing standard, or lack of it.
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i dont think wider caravans would clog up roads as the new width is 8 ft as for our roads not bieng suitable what width is a bus ,lorry,pick up truck ,a large box van ,we dont close roads because of these,
the new legal linit is the same as a standard motorhome ive seen plenty of these on country roads i personaly cant see a problem
tony
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Most continental caravans are 2.3mtres wide or less. If you go to France in't summer you will notice that most continental caravanners have small to medium sized 'vans.
Google for the websites of the popular continental, mainly German manufacturers & you will see they offer only 1 or 2 examples of 2.4 or 2.5mtre wide bodies on the length of 'vans that touring caravanners generally use.
I'm sure foreign caravanners buy 2.3mtre or less wide 'vans for the same reason we do. 2.5mtres is too wide. A caravan is not a truck. A truck going down a narrow lane can plough thru bushes on the n/s & the driver ain't really bothered if he gets clipped by the odd o/s wing mirror. Not summat you would want for your new £17k caravan tho.
The UK caravan industry is a success story. If the UK public wanted their caravans in the style of Knaus or Defleffs they would buy them & the UK industry would produce caravans in the same style.
We have a free market in Europe & UK caravan producers know what they are doing, if there was a market for wider caravans, they would produce them.
It wasn't so many years ago that British manufacturers dominated the European market with shiploads of caravans being exported from the east coast ports. Now we have a range of bland designs with very little worthwhile innovation from one year to the next and components sourced from the rest of Europe (Munster Simms - Wale being a notable exception of a company that does still bring out some well designed and engineered products). Tame journalists going into raptures over a rooflight just about sums up the market these days. If it wasn't for the continental manufacturers we would have beige velour with flower patterns on the soft furnishings. How much of this is the fault of the market when the majority of people purchasing new caravans are in late 50's or 60's with conservative tastes? 'Grandad' is not going to want a full width caravan with radical designs because it wouldn't suit the image he wants to portray.
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Don't want wider 'vans ... I would prefer narrower if anything. Our 7ft 4 'van just fits down our drive ... if things keep going the way they are we will have little or no choice of van when we come to change.
Also do I want to tow an 8ft wide 'van? NO!
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i`m not saying every caravan should be 8ft wide but it would be nice to see somthing different,rather than the same design recycled every year or so.
i imagine when twin axles came out there were those who said the same to big for british roads,dangerous etc it`s down to personal choice .but variety is the spice of life
tony
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I would love to see what they could do with the layout of an 8 ft wide van. Our Adria is 7'6" wide and appears to be so much more spacious compared to our previous van at 7'0 wide. It makes little difference when towing. Would I notice if it was a little wider again?
In all honesty though I don't think there will ever be a huge demand for wider caravans in this country for many varied and valid reasons as some people have already posted. It is all down to personal choice. The problem is for some of us we don't feel that we have much to choose from.
Think of all those lovely country lanes in Cornwall required to reach many camp sites that are a nightmare with a 7' 2" van. Remember as well that by law you have to be able to see down the whole length of each side of the van so your wing mirrors will be at least 8'6" wide.
We've been to a couple of rallies where the entrance was less that 8' wide - I don't like the thought of cutting myself out of a significant number of sites.
The interesting thing is that in spite of the new regulations, Bailey brought out the thinner Olympus. As I've written in another thread, I wonder if that is any indication that the new proposed replacement of the Ranger (which presumably will be less expensive to buy than the Olympus), will also be a thinner van? At a time when the regulations are allowing wider units, Bailey may be going in the opposite direction. I suppose we will have to wait until next February to find out.
i live and work driving trucks around cornwall .be it delivery ,s or dustbin trucks . even tankers for the waste . i really cant see it a problem .i think some just need to have a driving course . even the narrowist trucks are 7.6 most are 8ft and you just have to get on and do it. .cheers alan.
Quote: Originally posted by vwalan on 02/11/2010
i live and work driving trucks around cornwall .be it delivery ,s or dustbin trucks . even tankers for the waste . i really cant see it a problem .i think some just need to have a driving course . even the narrowist trucks are 7.6 most are 8ft and you just have to get on and do it. .cheers alan.
Alan
Don't think it is a problem with towing the extra width. Some of us have to find somewhere to put the extra inches in storage.
not against it but i am happy with our present width of van.have said it before the main problem i can see is the gate width of the camping sites.some are a bit mean now.keswick springs to mind.
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