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Subject Topic: stop awning collapse. guy ropes
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16/1/2011 at 10:23pm
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Hello. We are thinking of going to the outer hebrides with caravan. After last year when the awning collapsed in Wales, has anyone tried putting further guy ropes to their awning - as i feel if there were more guy ropes - particularly at the front ( caravan front ) of the awning above the windows, it would stop the awnings from collapsing. Has anyone tried this - I'd thought of putting eyelets thru the canvas and a bar inside the awning which could be tensioned thru the eye lets to guy ropes - or does it all sound like a disaster in the making. thanks for any info anyone has? Peter


16/1/2011 at 10:35pm
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What type of awning do you mean? We have a conventional Dorema 1025cm awning and when its particularly windy we add three guys, one above each upright where the valance pole pokes out. We also have a Kampa Fiesta lightweight awning that was blown down in high winds last November. I have now attached an additional 6 guy ropes using clingons/holdons which can be attached where there is any surplus canvas.

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16/1/2011 at 10:44pm
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You could purchase a storm strap and use it for extra security in high winds. I believe they are much stronger than using extra guy which ropes but there's nothing wrong in using both for that extra peace of mind.

Michael (below) has the strap I was reffering to otherwise known as a tie down kit. He's also provided a website for you to identify the item.

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16/1/2011 at 10:52pm
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alway fit one of these full time,saves getting up at three in the morning.

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/redirect.asp?redir=http://www.towsure.com/product/894-Awning_Tie_Down_Kit

Awning Tie Down Kit

£5.79
£6.95 inc VAT

Awning Tie Down Kit
A165
* Heavy Duty Strap
* 2 Heavy Duty Steel Pegs
* Steel String & Buckles
* To suit awnings up to 6 metres



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17/1/2011 at 7:56am
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Don't forget to put a twist in the strap to stop it 'humming'. Even though we used a tie down kit, when it got really windy we used to add extra guys to our Dorema like Nigel above. Is the awning collapsing because of the guys or the poles slipping down inside each other?


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17/1/2011 at 8:03am
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Assuming your awning is the standard frame type a storm strap should do the job. The pegs are huge spikes. We have used one seveval times.

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17/1/2011 at 9:48am
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If you use a storm strap make sure it does not rub on the canvas as it can make a terrible mess of an awning if it does. I was looking at some second hand awnings recently and almost half of them had damage from storm straps. My own feeling is supplemental poles, both roof and support should make everything more rigid and less prone to letting the canvas flap and subsequently become damaged.

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17/1/2011 at 10:42am
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i no longer use the slip guy ropes ropes,i have found these slip under windy conditions.i now use fixed ropes.

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17/1/2011 at 11:03am
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When I was in the Outer Hebrides, quite a few years ago, nobody had awnings.  They did have ropes over the caravan itself, with big wooden stakes driven into the ground.

The weather while we were there was delightful, but apparently this was an exception.

Jim



17/1/2011 at 12:02pm
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I went a bit overkill when we went away last year. I shoved a storm strap over the awning & fitted extra guy lines. As my awning had aluminium poles I wasn't taking any chances.



As for the storm strap humming I just added an extra peg & that seemed to shut it up


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17/1/2011 at 5:39pm
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We have a Bradcot awning, we always use storm straps but put them inside the awning as per manufacturers instructions.  We just stake in both front corners and front middle.  This way, no damage to canvas and no wind noise of straps flapping about. 

Regards Janette



17/1/2011 at 6:48pm
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We keep a storm strap in the van, and use it if high wind is indicated.  I carry a pack of pound shop bath sponges which I use between the strap and the canvas, over the poles.  They are also useful to stop crockery etc. banging about when travelling.

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17/1/2011 at 7:11pm
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As Janette above says, we use Bradcot storm straps inside the awning with huge metal stakes every time we put the awning up. Strong winds can whip up at any time of the day or night (ie when your away for the day or asleep!).


17/1/2011 at 7:12pm
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Uig CP

In 2008 we did 27 nights in the Outer Hebrides with our pop top caravan.

I do not remember seeing any caravans with awnings and the only tents we saw were all tunnel type tents.

During the entire holiday we only had two hours of rain and both occasions were during the night. However when the wind blows by gawd it blows and twice we had to drop the pop top and sleep through gales that were rocking the van despite the fact that we were in sheltered locations.

I would not even consider taking an awning to a place like the Hebrides.
A dining shelter type thing perhaps, something that could be taken down quickly, but nothing other than that.



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18/1/2011 at 10:28am
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I took my Movelite awning + campervan to the Outer Hebs (looks like we've stayed at the same beach, Lobey!!) and due to the fact that it had sewn in storm straps we were ok. I don't know if I'd do the same with my caravan though, although I have the same awning, I'd be worried about both awning and awning rails damage.

The winds come with the tides. We were there in May, lovely dry sunny weather, but 40mph one way in the morning, 40mph back again the other way 12 hours later. The winds can be terrifically strong there, but it's the most beautiful place on earth!

See my little slide show on You Tube - my hair is in plaits because of the wind! LOL!
You TUbe trip

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18/1/2011 at 10:37am
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I do think an awning would be very lucky to survive a trip to the Outer Hebrides.

It just isn't like other places at all.  Leave the awning at home.

Jim




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