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08/3/2011 at 7:55pm
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Just had our Peggy in for its first service and a couple of minor warranty adjustments.

 Had a call from the tech telling me the water pump was kaput due to frost. Can't be done under warranty so £89!

We drained the system as per the handbook but there must have been a bit in it. (No problems last year with same system on a Pageant). Yes it has been very cold!

 The tech told me they had replaced several pumps so far-and expect to sell more parts when folk get their vans out!

They also checked the loo pump that is fine.

He suggested blowing down the tap to get all water out!

 At that price I might take it out before overwintering!

But van all ready to go,excellent service from Cosford Cravans as usual!

 Weather looks ok so may use it locally at he weekend before putting it away!

So check your water system folks or puddles may result!



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08/3/2011 at 8:48pm
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Hi, I'm also finding a lot of water damaged on board pumps as the season gets under way, don't know about Baileys owner manual but the Swift manuals do have the draining instructions in them, when draning the system, remove the quick release fittings on both the inlet and out sides of the pump, place a shallow bowl under the pump inlet and outlet, then run the pump you will find the pump will expel roughly half of cup of water, it's this water freezing that do's the damage, running the pump dry for a minute will not damage it. This procedure should be carried out on any make of on-board pump. Also if your pump has a particle filter attached to the pump it's a good idea to remove this and drain as well, it will crack if frozen, may not leak but will affect the pump operation by drawing air.

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09/3/2011 at 10:21am
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if laying up the caravan for winter at that price i would remove it.i do this on the shower head as these are expensive and tend to split.or build a box round it and fill with polystyrene granules to the top.i use polystyrene sheets all round our truma ultra heater as these cost about £350.

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09/3/2011 at 11:16am
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Here is a reply I have received from Thetford today !

Thank you for your email.

If your van is within 3 years old then this will be covered by Thetford warranty and if you contact your dealer or a Thetford approved service centre, they will be able to replace this free of charge.

The actual body of the pump has been reinforced so once fitted it shouldn't happen again.



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09/3/2011 at 11:22am
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Quote: Originally posted by luke26032000 on 09/3/2011
Here is a reply I have received from Thetford today !

Thank you for your email.

If your van is within 3 years old then this will be covered by Thetford warranty and if you contact your dealer or a Thetford approved service centre, they will be able to replace this free of charge.

The actual body of the pump has been reinforced so once fitted it shouldn't happen again.


hi,do you mean the toilet pump?


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09/3/2011 at 11:38am
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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 09/3/2011
Quote: Originally posted by luke26032000 on 09/3/2011
Here is a reply I have received from Thetford today !

Thank you for your email.

If your van is within 3 years old then this will be covered by Thetford warranty and if you contact your dealer or a Thetford approved service centre, they will be able to replace this free of charge.

The actual body of the pump has been reinforced so once fitted it shouldn't happen again.


hi,do you mean the toilet pump?


Yes I refer to the flush pump in the Thetford C250 toilet.

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09/3/2011 at 12:23pm
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thanks,



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09/3/2011 at 12:39pm
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Hi does anybody know when thetford changed the design of the pump? and from when the new design was employed in new vans

Thanks



09/3/2011 at 1:09pm
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Our 2010 van has the thicker loo pump according to our dealer.

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I've just replaced our Thetford C200CW manual toilet flush pump as the round plate at the bottom had cracked - presumably due to frost as I had ignored the warnings to undo the rubber bung !  It's relatively easy to replace if a bit fiddly. But two warnings - there are two screws under the handle that are not mentioned in the Thetford instructions. Plus when ours arrived (£23 from Leisure Shop Direct), the short hose was attached to the wrong plastic nipple ! I didn't notice this and of course it didn't work after I'd fitted it all ! When I took it out I stuck it in a bowl of water and was able to work out what the problem was ! And I was pleasanty surprised to see it came with mastic already in place ! All working perfectly now - although I have drained it all again as we have had frost over the last few days !!!  Not paranoid at all !!!


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10/3/2011 at 4:43pm
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Hi all, been down today ,after worrying about my pump,filled and vented the system all fine no leaks, but me being worrier , examined all around the water heater and pump, all fine, one thing ive never noticed there is a square part attached to the left of the pump, that had a clear see through section and was able to view the water being pumped through that section, any ideas why this would be see through, as i say no leaks and all worked fine.


10/3/2011 at 6:02pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 08/3/2011

He suggested blowing down the tap to get all water out!

 


 

I saw this device at the NEC, gets all the water out of the system after draindown. After having a cracked pipe myself I think it's a good idea, maybe just a tad on the expensive side.

http://www.keepfloeing.com/products-touring.html



10/3/2011 at 6:23pm
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saved that thanks.

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11/3/2011 at 10:50am
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Has anyone got a picture of the old type or the later reinforced one so we can see which one we have installed in our units?

Where does this crack occur, inlet, outlet or either?

Dave



11/3/2011 at 12:14pm
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not sure which toilet you have look here.there is a note at the bottom that mentions freezing.

http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/caravan/water/product_31195/Thetford_Pump_for_C250-CWE_Cassette_Toilet.aspx

C250CWE



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11/3/2011 at 1:42pm
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Thanx for that Michael, mine is a C250CWE which may or may not have been uprated.

Do we know if this is the image of an uprated one? and where abouts does it hide in the unit, is it accessable from anywhere to have a butcher's?

Dave




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