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Personbeefysmum
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We have a service pitch for the season . Not used a service pitch before, a question about the mains water . I know you can get a HOSE AND ADAPTER TO SUPPLY WATER TO THE AQUAROLL .
But I noticed that on some caravans they have the hose going straight into the caravan , where the water pump usually goes .
Nobody there to ask, so I thought someone here would know. Is this just on ultra modern vans or can you do it with any caravan ?
Reason being , we would have to buy a new aquaroll, as ours hasnt got the side filler cap, so if we could use the mains water sraight into the van it makes more sense .
What would we need to buy to do this?
we have a 1995 van and a whale pump.


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i know what you mean,BUT i do not like the idea of it.what if it went wrong when you were out and it starts leaking at full water tap pressure ???? i have found the the site taps have a very strong pressure to them.this cannot happen with a aqua roll.

http://www.robinsonscaravans.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=EM9401

WHALE AQUASOURCE MAINS WATER CONNECTION KIT



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Persongeoff+emmy
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We had the aquasource fits both whale and carver and had no trouble with it they come with a pressure regulater and are fitted with an automatic valve and a lot easier than dragging the aquaroll about, mine is on a well known auction site as i have sold the bailey and bought a swift which is a truma fitting


Personbrianconwy
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I was using an aquaroll fitted with a float valve on a site in the south of France and i suddenly heard a sound of water gushing.  The hose running to the aquaroll had failed, probably due to the mains pressure.  We hadn't realised it was so high.


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Quote: Originally posted by brianconwy on 20/3/2011
I was using an aquaroll fitted with a float valve on a site in the south of France and i suddenly heard a sound of water gushing.  The hose running to the aquaroll had failed, probably due to the mains pressure.  We hadn't realised it was so high.
Same happened to me once, the hose shot of the hose connector. If the tap is high pressure, once the aquaroll has initially filled, I turn the mains tap off & back on about 1/2 - 1 turn only. This is enough to keep the aquaroll topped up, with much lower pressure.


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Personles + june
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We were on a site quite a few years ago with the water connected straight into the Caravan. We had no problem at all until one day we went out and when we came back some prat decided to turn the pressure full on and consequently the Caravan was flooded.
I would go for the one through the aquaroll.



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Same happened to me once, the hose shot of the hose connector. If the tap is high pressure, once the aquaroll has initially filled, I turn the mains tap off & back on about 1/2 - 1 turn only. This is enough to keep the aquaroll topped up, with much lower pressure.

This will actually only reduce the flow, whereas the pressure will stay the same. There is a difference between flow and pressure. You can get a large volume of water flowing quickly from a hose at a low pressure and equally you can get a small volume at a very high pressure.
After that I don't really know which would be best to have in this caravan situation!!


Personbrianconwy
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At least if you use an aquaroll and float valve then any problem will be on the outside of the caravan.


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Quote: Originally posted by stephenn280575 on 20/3/2011
Same happened to me once, the hose shot of the hose connector. If the tap is high pressure, once the aquaroll has initially filled, I turn the mains tap off & back on about 1/2 - 1 turn only. This is enough to keep the aquaroll topped up, with much lower pressure.

This will actually only reduce the flow, whereas the pressure will stay the same. There is a difference between flow and pressure. You can get a large volume of water flowing quickly from a hose at a low pressure and equally you can get a small volume at a very high pressure.
After that I don't really know which would be best to have in this caravan situation!!

 

I did think the same, but it has seemed to work, but if the hose did shoot of again, at least I wouldn't flood the campsite! Mind the fact that I use vending machine hose which has a slightly smaller diameter doesn't help.


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Thanks for all the advice. Looks like we'll get a new 40litre aquaroll then.

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your welcome

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I think the aquaroll with the float adapter is a safer bet.  This is what we use, but our van is not designed for a direct input.

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If you get a leak inside the caravan (pipe comes off ect) when you are using an aquaroll with ball valve, your caravan would flood untill you turned off the supply because the aquaroll will continue to fill due to the ball valve. the only issue i see is using a direct supply is that you will need to reduce the pressure to that of an electric pump.
the safe way to do it is just use the standard electric pump and water container,(when the container is empty the leak stops) or turn off the tap when the container is full
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Or would the pump not run due to the taps not being turned on??? (micro switches)??


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Quote: Originally posted by alpiner on 21/3/2011
If you get a leak inside the caravan (pipe comes off ect) when you are using an aquaroll with ball valve, your caravan would flood untill you turned off the supply because the aquaroll will continue to fill due to the ball valve...
I agree with this in theory, but in reality the internal pressure of a caravan water system with pump isn't high enough to cause problems with fittings when using the Aquaroll/float system as the system pressurises on demand.
Last year I encountered two instances of folk whose vans were flooded when they were using the direct water feed system (one was using the Whale Aquasource and the other family had just bought the Truma version). Internal fittings had blown loose and the direct system was still obviously pumping the water in. While the direct inlet kits have a pressure reduction system fitted, this doesn't protect the van from pipework issues.
Like the other posts, I'd recommend the Aquaroll/Floatvalve, as although cumbersome I do consider it a safer system.

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We got this from Care-avan at the NEC show, we haven't used it yet first time will be this week.  Hopefully it will be OK.

 

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Quote: Originally posted by Woofers on 21/3/2011

We got this from Care-avan at the NEC show, we haven't used it yet first time will be this week.  Hopefully it will be OK.

 

<img alt=188 alt="Mains water hog valve and hose.jpg" src="https://www.care-avan.co.uk/images/Product%20Images/Mains%20water%20hog%20valve%20and%20hose.jpg" width=250 longDesc="images/Product Images/Mains water hog valve and hose.jpg">

Your link isnt working Woofers, sorry.

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