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18/4/2011 at 9:32pm
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OK folks I need some help. Our first caravan outing was a roaring success this past weekend that is aprt from my failure to get the Sat Dish working. I spent half of Saturday twiddling around with it watching the Satfinder needling going up and down only for the sky box to keep telling me no sat signal being received. Should it work plugged directly into a sky receiver? Is there anything else I have to do? I purchased this dish of ebay -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sky-Freesat-mini-satellite-dish-kit-caravan-camping-/360360200235?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item53e724482b

We are heading for Damage Barton in Devon for 12 nights on Thursday and the website says they only have a digital signal there so I need to either get this working as is or buy something that will work.

All advice/suggestions welcomed


18/4/2011 at 10:02pm
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Hope you dont mind i did a link for you

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sky-Freesat-mini-satellite-dish-kit-caravan-camping-/360360200235?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item53e724482b
Have a look here
http://www.satelliteforcaravans.co.uk/

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18/4/2011 at 10:13pm
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Your sat finder [unless you spent £100s] will react to any satellite; it is not bright enough to know it is the little cluster you need to please your Sky box.

If you start pointing a little to the EAST of your target and move in little steps further South then the first time the satellite finder sings is going to be the right place.
So using a compass start at about 140 degrees, then as you pass about 146 degrees you will be on target. If you start too far South and move to the East then your sat finder will encounter many signals that are no good to you. I suspect that is what you have been doing; looking at the wrong satellites for Sky.

If the dish has an elevation scale set it to about 27 degrees.


18/4/2011 at 10:44pm
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Thanks that is useful stuff. All I have to do now is find the sky viewing card which has gone missing in the van and try again! I suspect being up in Derbyshire near Ashbourne that we may have been struggling anyway.


19/4/2011 at 7:31am
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This is the same one as we purchased (thanx to all on here for the advice) & it arrived on Thursday ready for us to head off on Friday afternoon. Friday night we couldnt get a signal at all & i thought the instructions were rubbish but then early on Saturday morning we had help from a few of the seasonal pitch owners & yes you got it...it worked! It was a case of moving very slowly & watching the tv screen at the same time for the signal strength bars to rise then we were up & running! I must say though, what a difference it made having the tv for the late evenings

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19/4/2011 at 8:49am
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the hardest poart I have found is that the sky sat is a very narrow band, and relativly weak compared with another sat cluster right next to it with a wide band and strong signal.

getting there, only second attempt this time, if I remember rightly, when you have a signal/quality of around 50% the box should show locked and a number/l;etter combo 7d with somthing else after it, cant remember of find it atm.



19/4/2011 at 5:12pm
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I did a dry run yesterday with our Sky box ( no card ) just to make sure it was ok before we go to York next monday, I only use a compass and as has been explained I look for about 140 degrees and start to turn slowly South, waiting about 10 seconds between increments. I got a signal almost straight away and just had to do some small adjustments to get a better quality of signal.

Also make sure your tripod is level before you start making any adjustment, as this can cause  loss of signal, a lesson I learned last year when my box almost got a hammer taken to it after 2 hours.



19/4/2011 at 6:18pm
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There are Youtube videos of setting up a satellite dish for caravan.

David Sullivan's site has the best info.

Most important is to be patient when you first do it.

As JimC says make sure the tripod/dish is level to start and not skewed

 

Terry



19/4/2011 at 8:15pm
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There's a new generation of portable satellite systems which incorporate a "Easy Find" LNB and an "Easy Find" enabled sat box. It's dead easy to set up - you don't even need to see the TV screen! You select the satellite you want to receive from an on-screen menu on the sat box, turn on 'Easy find' with the remote control and then go to the dish. The LNB has a LED that lights up red, amber (yellow really) and green according to the signal strength. It will ONLY look for the satellite you chose from the menu and ignore all others. Set the dish 'face' vertical, point it slightly away from the correct general direction and slowly turn towards the correct direction and watch for the LED to turn green. With a bit of help from dishpointer.com you can be up and running in minutes.

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19/4/2011 at 8:18pm
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Hi,

The key is to get a clear line of sight to the SSE, the dish should be virtually vertical.

If there are bushes, trees, or even a clump of daffs in the way, the signal will be lost.

I can usually set mine up in a couple of minutes, once I just pointed to the bit of sky I thought was approximately right and hit the spot first time!

Mr UM



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20/4/2011 at 10:19pm
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Thanks for all this advice, hoping I can crack it this time. Can I ask about this clear line of site. If there are trees about 1000 yards away as there was at the weekend is this going to cause an issue? If so what do you revert to? Everyone else seemed to have aerials pointing at the trees but all their tellys were lit up nicely when I went for s stroll in the evening.


20/4/2011 at 10:38pm
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first time 3 hours,lol.now only about 10 to 15 minutes from start to finish.must be no trees or walls in the way over three feet high near to the dish when you pitch up.find dead south with compass and the satellite is at 140 degs east of that.if compass is hard to read at the same time as moving the dish a trick i learned was to point your watch 12 oclock at dead south and the satellite required is at 5 too 12 oclock.check ALL connections are good as you can waste a lot of time looking for a satellite and not find it because of a poor connection.yes i have done this too.once the 140 degs is found look for a line of site in that direction,say a telegraph pole or tree in the distance and remember this.point dish at this object. not everyone can read a compass. 

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20/4/2011 at 11:16pm
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Cheers everyone, heading off to Damage Barton tomorrow so hopefully with a nice open space like they have I'll be able to lock on to the sat. Appreciate your advice.


20/4/2011 at 11:33pm
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have a good time,tell us how you get on with the dish set up.by the way the dish must be vertical at first. you can adjust this to get signal quality.signal strength anything over 50% should do.if it a sky box.

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We have a satfinder.....in a bag....somewhere! We just use a compass to get a rough idea (if no-one else has set up to copy!)Currently at Bunree and the warden said not to bother or spend a lot of time as hardly anyone gets a signal.....we got one in about 10 mins!.....point and wait!


21/4/2011 at 6:35am
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Quote: Originally posted by happyharwoods on 20/4/2011
Can I ask about this clear line of site. If there are trees about 1000 yards away as there was at the weekend is this going to cause an issue?


An easy "rule of thumb" re trees etc is that things must be no higher than half the distance they are away.

The beam for "all intents and purposes" is coming down here at a 1:2 angle so those trees at 1000 yards will not be an issue at all.



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