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20/4/2011 at 10:13am
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A friend started his journey towing his new caravan (not a novice caravanner) and within half a mile when he was going about 5 miles per hour as he was slowing to pass a busy car park exit, the van became detatched and hit the back of his car and veered sideways damaging the A frame.  He is insistent that he saw both green dots raised on his hitch and visually checked everything before driving away from home. 

The caravan repair shop man said to wind the jockey wheel down and watch to see the car rear end rising, even when the green dot is showing, and then it is firmly on.

We will be doing this every time we hook up now. 

Carol

 



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we saw someone do that leaving a campsite last year.  The car was bouncing all over the place as the owner was going far to fast over the grass and the caravan just bounced off the back of the car and continued on its own merry way for quite a distance.  It was near the exit and no damage was done but the owner looked very embarrassed!


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20/4/2011 at 11:10am
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Quote: Originally posted by Carolbay on 20/4/2011

The caravan repair shop man said to wind the jockey wheel down and watch to see the car rear end rising, even when the green dot is showing, and then it is firmly on.

We will be doing this every time we hook up now. 

Carol

 


thats what I do.

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20/4/2011 at 11:21am
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That's what the CC towing course tells you to do too - a few seconds checking can save a whole load of trouble later on.

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20/4/2011 at 11:31am
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Quote: Originally posted by andcow on 20/4/2011
we saw someone do that leaving a campsite last year.  The car was bouncing all over the place as the owner was going far to fast over the grass and the caravan just bounced off the back of the car and continued on its own merry way for quite a distance.  It was near the exit and no damage was done but the owner looked very embarrassed!

Hi, And he deserves to be!!, Thoughtless Idiot,, would expect that kind of driving from boy racers,but not from a caravaner towing van on a site,with total disregard for others around him, maybe he has learned a leason now.

The caravan detatching from OP at slow speed, cause could have been a worn down towball,or not fully engaged on the towball, if stabiliser locked down on top of towball you would still have the stabiliser indicators showing green(and the weight of van on towball could have been sufficient enough to move van, until driver had to brake, then the van would slide off towball and into back of the tow car), If that was the case, then the driver must have been a very good driver,for the van not to have come off at start of journey.( After hook up i tend to use jockey wheel to lift hitch to check that van is coupled correctly).



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20/4/2011 at 12:06pm
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I always lifted the drawbar until it lifted the rear of the tow-vehicle (not off the ground - just lifted on the suspension!) to check the 'van (and fc before that) was properly hitched.  It was part of my hitch-up routine.


20/4/2011 at 12:36pm
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Could be wrong tow ball ie not an extended neck (alco) or a swan neck


20/4/2011 at 1:10pm
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New towbar fitted to suit hitch so not likely to be that.  As suggested, possible lock down on top of ball and he is a careful driver.  Hope that posting about his accident will alert people who do not already know to do this jockey wheel check on rear suspension to now think about doing so and avoid this frightening event happening to them.

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20/4/2011 at 1:34pm
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Hi Carol, Must be gutted as New van,hope our friend get van repaired soon,as will miss out on trips, Dont think that, that will happen to your friend again,as they will check, when the handle snaps down to lock on towball, that it has actually done so.

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20/4/2011 at 3:35pm
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Greetings,

 

Not quite in the Detaching league (just yet) but guess who had a red face on Monday afternoon, trying to get the outfit out of the dedicated parking lot at the Services on the M5 with the jockey wheel most decidedly in the DOWN position!!!

Oooops!!!



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20/4/2011 at 6:58pm
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The Jockey wheel test is a very good one I hadnt heard of before - I will be definitely using it in future - thank you

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Quote: Originally posted by andcow on 20/4/2011 we saw someone do that leaving a campsite last year. The car was bouncing all over the place as the owner was going far to fast over the grass and the caravan just bounced off the back of the car and continued on its own merry way for quite a distance. It was near the exit and no damage was done but the owner looked very embarrassed!

For it to have continued whilst detatched makes me wonder if they have a breakaway cable properly attatched.
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I cant believe if people are experienced vanners and had proper training they should know about the jockey wheel procedure. Also I find that the Alko is not as positive as the BPW and have had false engagement in the past even though the green button was showing. Wound down the jockey wheel and it popped off didn't trust it after that.

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20/4/2011 at 9:45pm
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Hi Chalkie56, It could have been the hitch was a little forward of towball and as hitch lowered to the towball it hit the locking leaver and activated the handle, giving a false indication of it being locked in position on the towball,even experienced vanner could get cought out ,especially if they get distracted,

saxso1, You may have been one the same site at the same time of the incident, He may not have had his brakeawy cable attached  at all, concidering the discription of the distance covered by the van,( And if he did Then he was flying out of the site, must have been in a hellava hurry), I have one soloyion for blokes like thet, ( Crush van,and car, preferabily with the Idiot of a driver in it.)and thats the soft option.



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20/4/2011 at 11:08pm
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OOPPPSSS got careless again with typing that post sorry

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We had it happen to us on unity farm last November it was embaressing , gutting and weird , weird in a way that i go through the same checks every time and luckily it came off on the site , quite a bit of damage done new front panel , new front box , new front windows , new stabilizer all done through the insurance and i have to say they were amazing .

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