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29/6/2011 at 1:07am
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I have a problem on occassions unhitching my Bailey provence from my towball which incidently I have changed, it can be a nightmare to get it to disengage, any thoughts appreciated.


29/6/2011 at 7:29am
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I used to have a similar issue. I cured it by replacing the dangerous AlKo stabiliser with a nice safe ordinary hitch. Now I have a snake free outfit that is easy to unhitch. ;-D


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29/6/2011 at 9:20am
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Quote: Originally posted by LegsDownKettleOn on 29/6/2011
I used to have a similar issue. I cured it by replacing the dangerous AlKo stabiliser with a nice safe ordinary hitch. Now I have a snake free outfit that is easy to unhitch. ;-D

Dangerous alko stabiliser.care to explain please.


29/6/2011 at 9:24am
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I'll get ready...

Jim



29/6/2011 at 9:46am
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We've never had a problem with ours.  Would be interested in reading why some think they are dangerous.  Thought they were meant to help 'in case of emergency', but not used as an excuse for bad/overweight loading etc.

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29/6/2011 at 10:06am
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I am not typing an essay on my phone, so I will explain why it is dangerous later. In the meantime, maybe you would care to explain what you think a stabiliser would do in an emergency as that is actually the point that it does nothing at all.


29/6/2011 at 10:16am
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Quote: Originally posted by Greendemon315 on 29/6/2011

I'll get ready...

Jim




Go on Jim, you can have this one!


29/6/2011 at 10:22am
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Would be good if someone could actually answer the OP's question rather than try to start yet another forum 'discussion'! Think some people may be bored this morning.

So, has anyone had the same issue as Murfanco, and, if so, do they have any advice?

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29/6/2011 at 10:30am
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I was simply wanting clarification why legsdownkettleon. Thinks the alko stabiliser is dangerous and causes snaking.


29/6/2011 at 10:31am
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Well said searchlighters, lets try and help out with the question in hand.


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29/6/2011 at 10:41am
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As I said, I did have a similar issue. Never really got to the bottom of it but it is important that the thumb wheel is slackened sufficiently to fully release while not slackening so far that the circlip pops off. If anyone wants to know why stabilisers are dangerous, there is a search facility available. It is a subject that has come up in the past once or twice.


29/6/2011 at 11:03am
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And for what it's worth, I stand by my earlier solution. Fit an ordinary hitch and the problem is fixed plus you have a safer outfit. Win win situation.


29/6/2011 at 11:17am
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If th OP is towing with a 4x4 with a rear door mounted spare wheel. the Al-Ko hitch may not go fully vertical because it catches on the wheel- which makes it a little difficult to release.

 It used to happen when we towed with a Frontera.

I believe you can get a modded handle for this situation.

As for removing the tried and tested antisnake device hmm I think not!

If you had a snake and crashed what would insurers have to say? Modded vehicle and not telling them ???



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29/6/2011 at 11:34am
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I think you will find that insurance companies place no value on a stabiliser, unlike, for example, the ATC system.

Ten years ago the thinking was different, but it's only regarded as a comfort device now.

Jim



29/6/2011 at 11:43am
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If the alko hitch is dangerous why do most caravan manufacturers fit as standard.


29/6/2011 at 11:54am
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Hi Bryan

This has been done to death onother threads.  Let me just say that safety is not the only reason to fit something to a caravan.  They also have cookers and microwaves.

Over time, caravanners have come to accept stabilisers, when they were indeed regarded as safety devices.  Following testing, this position was found to be wrong, but of course stabilisers are still fitted. Plenty of profit there.

If in doubt, just ask your insurance company about discount for having a stabiliser, or extra premium if you don't have one.

A stabiliser isn't dangerous in itself, but it can mask signs that something is wrong.  There are countless examples on this forum. Certainly new caravanners should make sure they have a stable outfit before using a stabiliser. It's a device to make your journey more comfortable, but does not in any way prevent snaking.

Jim




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