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Subject Topic: MOVE SPARE WHEEL CARRIER
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25/11/2011 at 8:05pm
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Can anyone tell me if there is a way to move the Alko spare wheel carrier further back. I seem to remember some adaption kit that allowed this,

Regards Malcolm



25/11/2011 at 8:31pm
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Never heard of this, but surely the reason for fitting where it is is for stability. Closer to the fulcrum point the better, farther back and the greater the force to efffect the stability. Same as putting a heavy weight at the back of the van, not recommended.

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25/11/2011 at 8:55pm
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I only read once of someone who drilled his chassis to move the bracket, only to find he'd invalidated his warranty when he had his van serviced for it's first time (regardless of warranty, never drill a galvanised chassis as it greatly weakens the integrity of the finishing process).

Not heard of a kit to allow alternative fitment.

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25/11/2011 at 9:20pm
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You can't drill the chassis and it needs to be where it was designed to be anyway.
Jim


25/11/2011 at 9:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by MALCOLM1726 on 25/11/2011

Can anyone tell me if there is a way to move the Alko spare wheel carrier further back. I seem to remember some adaption kit that allowed this,

Regards Malcolm


Hi Malcolm, Is this the kind of thing you need, dose away with the existing wheel carrier and it uses one of the of the existing holes for the old carrier, moves the wheel back just enough to get mover fitted, not recommended as it will affect your nose weight, and the balance point of your van, if only using it for ease of access to the spare wheel, should be fine if placed in the first hole of the old carrier nearest to road wheel, look at the towsure web site, think they are about £40 or £50.hope that helps



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25/11/2011 at 9:55pm
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yes there is a kit you can buy see



http://www.powrwheel.com/Shop-largepic.asp?GoLarge=599&Order=&Qty=&Colour=&Style=&Size=&DesURL=&Prid=&TNumb=&DesP=&Cash=&





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26/11/2011 at 1:51pm
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Thanks John and Michael. You are right, they are available, Powrtouch make an adapter for Alko spare wheel carriers that doesn't need drilling the cassis. It casts £35.

Thanks for all your replies

Malcolm



26/11/2011 at 7:11pm
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i hear a lot about balance and nose weight , in Australia its not unusual to see on the twin axles , a spare wheel at the rear and one in the A frame , plus 2 gas cylinders on the A frame , nothing underneath , quite often on the continent you see bikes on the rear ,

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26/11/2011 at 7:52pm
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i do know the ozzy vans are built quite alot different to the euro vans , they are built for alot more off roading. steel frames etc . try a google on caravam world and out door life australia....

i spend quite alot of time in morocco . there are a few adventure vns get over there.

many built just for the job. twin and single wheel jobbies .

i use a mini artic but in ozz they build off road versions .very nice.



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27/11/2011 at 2:53pm
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Just using the Powrwheel carrier, which moves the carrier slightly further back, does not solve the very real problems of difficulties in removing/replacing the wheel.  I made mine reversible, so that I would not be in traffic lanes if used in France, but it still doesn't resolve high verge/kerb problems.

For some time I have been exploring the possiblity of making and fitting a carrier which draws out from the back of the van.  This would keep the wheel, when in situ, in its same position and therefore not alter the weight distribution.  The frame would drop at the rear, and its front end travel in a roller track so that, when extended, it would be clear of the rear end of the van.  So far, I have not come up with a way of doing this without drilling the chassis.   I did hear that someone had achieved this, but have not been able to find details.

Bertie. 



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27/11/2011 at 3:55pm
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Malcolm I would remove the spare wheel from the carrier asap. and carry it inside your caravan [on the floor] or inside your car. Do not wait until you have a puncture and have to do a roadside removal. I would certainly advise you to attempt a removal at home or another 'safe' location [from traffic].

We always carry our van spare wheel behind the passenger seat, then put it on the van floor when van goes into storage. This means the wheel is always immediately available and clean - not subject to road debris, wet etc.

However we are just a couple so plenty of room inside our vehicle.

 



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27/11/2011 at 6:18pm
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Quote: Originally posted by The 2 Tops on 27/11/2011

Just using the Powrwheel carrier, which moves the carrier slightly further back, does not solve the very real problems of difficulties in removing/replacing the wheel.  I made mine reversible, so that I would not be in traffic lanes if used in France, but it still doesn't resolve high verge/kerb problems.

For some time I have been exploring the possiblity of making and fitting a carrier which draws out from the back of the van.  This would keep the wheel, when in situ, in its same position and therefore not alter the weight distribution.  The frame would drop at the rear, and its front end travel in a roller track so that, when extended, it would be clear of the rear end of the van.  So far, I have not come up with a way of doing this without drilling the chassis.   I did hear that someone had achieved this, but have not been able to find details.

Bertie. 


Hi Bertie, I was thinking of the same kind of thing, though not looked into it fully yet, I was thinking of putting in a cross bar in the original holes for the existing wheel carrier, from the cross bar have central bar(wheel carrier) running to rear of van, then another cross bar(unit would resemble H shape) to secure the carrier at the rear, brackets and spacers could be made to bolt though the existing elongated chassis holes, with a U shaped bracket on the inner chassis side to act as a drop in lock for the rear of carrier, the other idea was to have the cross bar then two long lengths of angled aluminium running from new  crossbar to the rear of van, the long bars would have roller bearing type glides, the rear could be fitted with a to lock the carrier in place(similar to the existing type), that could be done with an other cross bar at the very rear of van, this could be held in place with similar method used in attaching movers to chassis,(if no existing holes there).

Theses would need to be no heavier than the original carrier, on the roller type carrier a locking pin of some sort would need to be fitted to stop spare wheel sliding along the runners while van in motion. Not had time to put mind to it, have Ideas run along this kind of thing in the rough sketches..

 



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27/11/2011 at 8:09pm
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  advice from recovery man,   much cheaper does not need any alterations to carrier,when undertaking any trip with a underslung spare, keeps you safe and much cleaner if you suffer a flat is before setting 0ff put the spare inside your caravan over the axle, less hastle if you sufer a flat. specialy if its persisting down on a dark or busy road.

       . ellroy.    

     



27/11/2011 at 9:07pm
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we dont use the carrier now after having a dry run at getting the wheel out in the driveway ...nightmare ! carry the spare under fixed bed now where at least you can safely get to it in the event of having to use it


27/11/2011 at 9:21pm
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I had mine moved by the dealer to help dodgy nose weight. They also shifted the mover to behind the axle also to help reduce nose weight.A kit was used for the carrier.

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27/11/2011 at 10:59pm
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some good ideas there , especially the rear removal

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