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01/12/2011 at 4:51pm
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I past two garages today and though they had other cars for sale the forecourts had a lot of 4x4s.One of the garages had more 4x4s than small cars.It started me wondering if people cant afford to run them any more and, i also wondered if gone were the days when they could.I sold my 4x4 not so long ago but my son had his advertised for months,with not one phone call before trading it in and,evan then he had to push a deal as the garage seemed not interested.

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01/12/2011 at 5:19pm
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You're probably right Jeff, but I could never do without mine.
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01/12/2011 at 5:24pm
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We have a 4X4 and the economy is the price we pay for having a tug that can do the job. I suppose it depends how big your caravan is and whether you need such a big car. I have no experience but I have heard that 4X4's in good condition and low mileage are fetching reasonable prices. That might because there are not that many big 4X4's around unless you are prepared to pay mega bucks for new.

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01/12/2011 at 6:03pm
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According to Parkers guide modern deisel Land Rover Discoveries are easy to sell on. Petrol not SO easy. Don't know about other models but suspect the same applies - modern deisels ok, older dirty engines & petrols not so.

These vehicles still have a place in society. Just more Chippenham or Chepstow than Chelsea these days.

I think a lot of folks were frightened a few years ago by the so called 4x4 road tax band. In practice it turned out to be a dirty vehicle tax band based on high emissions.


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01/12/2011 at 6:15pm
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we have a 4x4 and for us its a safe motor to be in and designed to a job like pull our 1272 kg caravan,this it does with ease.yes the cost is high to run on petrol and tax.read the other day they were selling well.

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01/12/2011 at 6:41pm
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Jeff I can only think that your sons vehicle was way over priced. Yuo will sell anything at the right price.

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01/12/2011 at 6:50pm
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We too have a 4x4 But I have the advantage of not working in fact we only use the car twice a week in winter so fuel costs are not that bad I have noticed though even some 2ltr cars towing are only getting around 25 mpg well I get 23 towing 1800kls+ and around 27 solo and its up to the job

I think modern diesels will still sell



01/12/2011 at 7:00pm
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I think with all things it depends on the model / spec. We speant 2 months looking for a 2008/2009 X-Trail before finally buying one last month and several we phoned up about were sold before we got the chance to view them. If it is a good make (Nissan X-Trail / Honda CRV, etc), in good condition with average miles and has a resonable MPG it will sell. The ones that I have seen struggling to sell tend to be those with bigger engines (i.e £400+ road tax), high milage, or petrol engines that don't return as good MPG. We have just P/X in our Vectra for the X-Trail and the road tax was only £90 a year more and the MPG is only slightly worse (we are getting a combined of 39-40 MPG compared with about 45-47mpg on the Vectra). Ultimatly we brought the x-trail for the extra options it will give us when we come to change to a bigger van but the boot size and 4x4 option was also a plus. As we only do around 9000 miles a year we can live with the slightly worse MPG. If we didn't tow the van then I guess we wouldn't have gone for a 4x4 as we wouldn't have needed the bigger kerbweight.....but the plus is we do get 5-6 weeks away next year at an average of around £120-£140 per week which we would never have done before getting a van!


01/12/2011 at 7:31pm
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I think it may be the dealers are selling the idea that this winter will be as bad as last and that we should have a 4x4 to cope with it . I notice the prices have risen , especially on small 4x4 like the CR-V . They could be smelling a good profit maker based on fear of snow and ice .


01/12/2011 at 8:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by AlanHardware on 01/12/2011
I think it may be the dealers are selling the idea that this winter will be as bad as last and that we should have a 4x4 to cope with it . I notice the prices have risen , especially on small 4x4 like the CR-V . They could be smelling a good profit maker based on fear of snow and ice .
Looking at the trouble we had in finding a low milage 58 plate X-Trail sport I would tend to agree! Honda CRV's seem to be the same with the only ones that are hanging around at our local dealers are with mega high mileage! One local dealer has had an X-Trail on the forecourt for 2 months but its priced way to high and isn't in great condition inside (as I pointed out!).......we had to travel 90 miles to finally find the one we wanted and this was after phoning up a number of dealers in autotrader who had sold ones available closer to us.


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01/12/2011 at 9:23pm
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We picked up our 2004 Diesil Hyundai santa fe today ..extremely pleased with it and the price we paid for it . Haggled like mad lol but these are still selling at high prices.
It is gorg. loving it lol we are young oldies 50 ish lol no school runs for us anymore. we have bought this soley to pull a decent sized caravan when we finally find one


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01/12/2011 at 9:39pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Chalkie56 on 01/12/2011
Jeff I can only think that your sons vehicle was way over priced. Yuo will sell anything at the right price.

Not at all Chalkie,he was asking £1500 below the prices being sold on pistonheads for the same car for a quick sale.4 and a half months it was in.

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01/12/2011 at 9:45pm
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Just to ad,i think its all to do if you are working or have a good pension that people can run them now,ok i know a few thats unemployed and got 4x4s but they only use it to tow their van and most of the time it just sits there.High fuel costs.

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01/12/2011 at 10:39pm
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When I sold my pajero in january this year Ididn't even advertise it  Iwas intending to sell it in the summer but a neighbous friend who knew that it would be up for sale asked me about as he had been top see several around the country and all had problems some seriou so he was very glad to get a quality one close to him so I think if its ok and priced right it will sell without any problem and after the last two winters that is possibly why there are so many on forecourts for sale.

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02/12/2011 at 10:58am
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I really like my Disco, but really hate putting diesel in it. The trouble is that the former doesn't work without the latter. I do worry about how much it costs to run but I think I'd worry more about towing my van with anything less.

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02/12/2011 at 11:52am
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Everyone round here seemed to start talking about getting 4x4 after the snow, but I think the fuel costs have stopped most people from actually buying. In fact there seems to be slightly less traffic about since the fuel prices etc. went bananas.



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