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bobsbabes

02/5/2012 at 2:02pm
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I am really pleased as just in time for the bank holiday we have recieved our plate upgrade meaning that we can now carry 330kg of stuff in the van rather than the 150kg that the old plate said :)

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02/5/2012 at 3:17pm
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We had our lunar upgraded, it's very handy :)

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morgankaz77

09/5/2012 at 9:04pm
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what does upgraded mean?
sorry to be dense!

Lassie

09/5/2012 at 9:20pm
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How can you do this? Surely the 'van only can carry what its built to carry? Perhaps i'm being a bit dim too!

JTQU

09/5/2012 at 9:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Lassie on 09/5/2012

How can you do this? Surely the 'van only can carry what its built to carry? Perhaps i'm being a bit dim too!

Some van's are built on running gear [chassis tyres etc] of greater carrying capacity than they choose to quote the van's MTPM as.
Because the UK is besotted with the 85% weight ratio it is in the interest of the caravan maker to suggest the weight of the van is low; therefore when applying the 85% ratio guide it suits more cars so more sales.

bobsbabes

09/5/2012 at 10:47pm
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As JTQU says our van has been built on a chassis that is capable of carrying more than the 1650 that is given as the mtplm this enables more cars to legally tow it . however the chassis is actually able to carry 1800kg so we contacted our dealer and asked for new plates for it dealers will charge about £50 for this they put in a request to the manufacturers .each plate is made individually and has to be re certified .we didn't replate our last van as we would have only gains 5kg so not worth it.
Hths

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robsonalan

10/5/2012 at 9:23pm
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I have just put in a order with the dealer for a plate upgrade for my swift kudos 636 upping it to 1725kg it will help a little as the mover is about 60kg. We shouldn't need all of it but at least it will give me a bigger margin for carrying stuff and less chance of accidentally going over weight.

Lassie

10/5/2012 at 9:45pm
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Thank you for clarifying that. Next question is: How do you identify your chassis and therefore what its capacity is?

Got husband interested in this!

Thanks for your help.

bobsbabes

10/5/2012 at 10:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by robsonalan on 10/5/2012
I have just put in a order with the dealer for a plate upgrade for my swift kudos 636 upping it to 1725kg it will help a little as the mover is about 60kg. We shouldn't need all of it but at least it will give me a bigger margin for carrying stuff and less chance of accidentally going over weight.

I am surprised its only going up to 1725kg as ours is a sterling Eccles sport 636 and Is upgraded to 1800kg ??

Lassie we asked the dealer we bought it off but apparently there is a second plate in the front locker and that will tell you hth

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peterws

10/5/2012 at 11:31pm
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Surely this is a paper exercise only? Does it give you real assurance of increased load ing capacity? I thought you`d put as little stuff in the van as poss, more in the towing vehicle for stability . . guess it shows what I know lol

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Lassie

11/5/2012 at 5:53am
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Thanks bobsbabes

bobsbabes

11/5/2012 at 6:55am
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No it's a legality issue it's Very unlikely that I will overload my van now with 4 children space is an issue in the car but it now means webcam take the bikes for the children which we have not been able to do before .
The only reason the weight is lower is to allow more cars to legally tow

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11/5/2012 at 9:17am
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Just out of curiosity what is the % ratio of the van's weight to that of the car's kerb weight now?

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bobsbabes

11/5/2012 at 11:30am
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82%ish neither van or car are on whattow car, so I have altered the figures so they are as close as i can get (i had to put the weight as 1837kg whilst the plate max is 1800 but can't change it any lower )

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cwdc56768

11/5/2012 at 12:37pm
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Thanks.

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robsonalan

11/5/2012 at 12:49pm
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You are correct could have gone to 1800 but thought would just up it to what we may need which was 1725

Quote: Originally posted by bobsbabes on 10/5/2012

Quote: Originally posted by robsonalan on 10/5/2012I have just put in a order with the dealer for a plate upgrade for my swift kudos 636 upping it to 1725kg it will help a little as the mover is about 60kg. We shouldn't need all of it but at least it will give me a bigger margin for carrying stuff and less chance of accidentally going over weight.

I am surprised its only going up to 1725kg as ours is a sterling Eccles sport 636 and Is upgraded to 1800kg ??

Lassie we asked the dealer we bought it off but apparently there is a second plate in the front locker and that will tell you hth

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