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23/7/2012 at 12:02am
Location: Sussex Outfit: Swift 645 Elegance - Range Rover Sport
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Hi Phil76, dont really agree with you for few reasons, I had a brand new Bailey Pageant Provence in June 2005. After our trip to Scotland in it I found screws were coming loose in the washroom, and again when I took it to the Dordogne. I then had a Crusader Twin axle and after our second year of having it and taking it to South of France, I had the slide out cupboard catches not meeting and I had to put an infil in and my wheel arch mastic had opened up (after 12 months). Then my friend see my opening post has just experienced after 5 years of owning his twin axle, taking his van to South of France and washroom screws coming out and splitting round the sink. The common denominator here is long distance motorway trips over a day or two. You mentioned various trailers you have had over a number of years but there is not much to damage on a trailer. Your work van that you mentioned that dont have balanced rear wheels? (but have you taken your work van on a motorway or autoroute for 500 to 800 miles over two days full of lightweight fitted furniture? A caravan's MTPLM on avearge weighs 1200 to 1800 Kgs and is full of lightweight construction furniture, if as I am convinced a wheel gets out of balance the vibration over long motorway distances of touring for 1 - 2 days each way would be hammering the cabinetry and mouldings constantly hour after hour for hours if on a long motorway run. We have all had an out of balance car wheel in the past and one thing that is noticable is that at lower normal type road speeds you dont notice it on a car, take the car up to say 50+ and the vibration / wobble starts if the wheel is out of balance. One last point Phil, why do we have to check the torque on the wheel nuts regularly on our caravans (just as I have done this weekend). When my car comes out of service I dont have to check the torque. In summary we know out of balance wheels cause vibration and unless proved otherwise I still believe vibration causes things to work loose and for the sake of a few quid why take the chance?
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23/7/2012 at 3:03pm
Location: Sussex Outfit: Swift 645 Elegance - Range Rover Sport
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Hi Phil 76 goods points and I agree with the points you make.
However does this not raise additional concerns in that as the construction of the furniture and fittings seem to be getting lighter each year, the problems of flexing helped by vibration or not will just increase the problems of screws coming loose and misaligned cabinets and cupboard catches?
If wheel vibration on out of balance wheels is causing or making matters worse, then we should all start insisting from our dealers tbey are balance prior to delivery, this would promote them to tell the manufacturers to do it.
One last point Phil which doesn't really get answered in your post and nobody seems to be able to give a definitive answer, is that if unbalanced wheels are not a major contributory factor to severe vibration, then what makes it necessary to have to re torque your wheels after they have been removed for a service, it can't be said they have not been fitted correctly as the dealer will know how to fit them. Also they have to be regularly checked ideally before each use? We often hear reports of caravan wheels coming off. Motor homes don't keep checking wheel torques , neither do cars. Cars and motor homes are however balanced, one might say cars are balanced because of possible discs brakes that could cause vibration, this in my view is also not an answer as car manufacturers also balance rear wheels even in the days when rear drum brakes were being used.
If car manufacturers see fit to balance all wheels due to passenger comfort that is still saying the same.
I have (touch wood) never lost a wheel but reading in caravan press and posts on forums many have, I have a real bee in my bonnet that the reasons and causes for this are being left unchallenged and we should, along with the clubs start asking why do wheels fall off caravans and furniture start opening, screws start falling out and get the manufacturers to sort these issues.
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