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08/8/2012 at 5:14pm
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Have you ever done this? You want to arrive at a site so that you can have a choice of pitches. So you set off early so you can arrive when you are supposed to.You are nearly there, glance at your watch and realise you are going to be much too early so you pull into a layby and while away the time.Then you arrive at a site dead on time, when you should do and find that the wardens have been letting in caravans for the past hour or so.We did this at weekend as we wanted to be near the doggy walk as our little doggy wasn't too well.(upset tum). We arrived dead on time, after loitering on the way,and were told most of the top pitches(near doggy walk) had been taken earlier.They had been letting caravans on over an hour early.Do we all have to ring the wardens of the site before we set off to see if we can go on early? We did this once and were told rather abruptly that the arrival time was stated clearly  in the book.Haven't done it since. Anyway if any of you are going to Bridlington don't go by the arrival time in the book if you want a choice of pitches.

Bridlington is a beautiful site, friendly, helpful wardens, big pitches and a fantastic doggy walk.



08/8/2012 at 6:59pm
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Yes know what you meqan, travelled 5 hours to Dorset, loitered around cause we were early, even rang the site several times and got the answer machine, got there to find people errecting awnings who had arrived an hour earlier.

On the other hand arrived at one site early as our friends were already there from the night before and had told us the site was nearly empty and was faced with a real jobsworth of a warden.
Locked herself in the office till 12, made us queue along with about 10 other units spilling out on to a small country lane, thought it was stupid as the site was nearly empty. They couldn't usethe excuse that they had to clean the loos either because contractors came in to do them.

I even offered to pay for the previous night and she accused me of black mail and said it wasn't about money.

I have written to the club and suggested that if the site has a lot of spaces why don't they let people on at say 9.30 and pay a half fee likewise if there are spaces on the leaving day pay half fee and stay until say 4.30.

More revenue for the club more happy campers but they didn't reply.

It's a job to know what to do.


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08/8/2012 at 7:09pm
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Yes we do exactly the same all the time if we're ever early it's by way less than half hour and i still dread getting into trouble as i'm a stickler for keeping to rules but like you we get onsite and there are people who have obviously arrived ages before us and got on their pitch with no problem.

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08/8/2012 at 7:42pm
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suppose its just down to whether you have been before or not and know the warden/s


08/8/2012 at 9:12pm
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I'm a loiterer too! We park up so we can arrive dead on time. I actually hadn't thought about arriving earlier....you've got me thinking now!!

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08/8/2012 at 9:40pm
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I'm with you all on this one too - we always time our journey so that we don't arrive before 12 only to find others have obviously come in earlier. Also whilst on site, seeing people come in early!

If a 12 o'clock rule for arrivals is stated then it should be adhered to by all sites and the sites that do stick to it shouldn't be labelled 'jobs worth' - they have jobs to do during the morning before allowing new arrivals onto site. 



08/8/2012 at 9:51pm
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Looking at it the other way I have been leaving a site late morning and a massive gaaggle of caravans were blocking the roadway preventing me and about 5 caravans behind from leaving. Result gridlock all due to thoughless people arriving before 1200 contrary to instructions. Either they don't care or don't think.

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08/8/2012 at 9:54pm
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Many people obviously think that they do not have to obey rules. Its beyond me why they think this!



08/8/2012 at 10:00pm
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We also plan our journey to arrive after noon.

Been on site though and have seen units arriving well before noon to try and get the best of the pitches available.

As said above the rule allows the departing units to leave site safely and not get jammed by early incoming units.Dont think the wardens deserve to get called jobsworths for this.


08/8/2012 at 10:15pm
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Last week on a club site in Cumbria there was a motorhome touring round the site looking for a pitch at 10:30!!! That is really stretching it. I assume the wardens let them in as the site was not full.


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08/8/2012 at 10:17pm
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We get there for 11am as most sits will let you in at 10am if you are to early just say you made good time as we leave by 9.30am


09/8/2012 at 8:58am
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We find the midday arrival can be frustrating as we will often go to a site about 50 miles from home which means we are hanging around delaying our departure. However the rules are there for a purpose because at busy times you can't have people arriving as other are departing. There will be days when that is not the case. We all know what the rules are so members and wardens should apply them. I think it a bit disingenuous to call a warden a 'jobsworth' when they are applying those rules. There may be good reasons why they apply the rules to the letter. If it were to get around that the rule is ignored on certain sites I would bet that people would start chancing their arm by deliberately arriving early. I suspect its a no win situation for all concerned.

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09/8/2012 at 12:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Lassie on 08/8/2012

I'm with you all on this one too - we always time our journey so that we don't arrive before 12 only to find others have obviously come in earlier. Also whilst on site, seeing people come in early!

If a 12 o'clock rule for arrivals is stated then it should be adhered to by all sites and the sites that do stick to it shouldn't be labelled 'jobs worth' - they have jobs to do during the morning before allowing new arrivals onto site. 





I also think it should be adhered to too so that it's fair to everyone....if it's 12 oclock rule then 12 oclock it should be for everyone. .......it's an age old problem you would think they would have had it sorted by now........

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09/8/2012 at 12:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Janx on 09/8/2012
Quote: Originally posted by Lassie on 08/8/2012

I'm with you all on this one too - we always time our journey so that we don't arrive before 12 only to find others have obviously come in earlier. Also whilst on site, seeing people come in early!

If a 12 o'clock rule for arrivals is stated then it should be adhered to by all sites and the sites that do stick to it shouldn't be labelled 'jobs worth' - they have jobs to do during the morning before allowing new arrivals onto site. 





I also think it should be adhered to too so that it's fair to everyone....if it's 12 oclock rule then 12 oclock it should be for everyone. .......it's an age old problem you would think they would have had it sorted by now........

How do you suggest 'they' sort it?

If they let people on early they get critisised and if they make people wait until noon thay are labelled as 'jobsworths'.

Like Dvaid says, it's a no win situation for the wardens.



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09/8/2012 at 1:15pm
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As I said earlier.....I wrote to the club suggesting that if they have spaces...especially during quieter times....that they charge a 'half fee' to get there earlier or to stay late thus more revenue for the club and more flexibility for it's members, but heard nothing.
Of course there are the exceptions i.e Chatsworth, Morton etc where the time reason is because of access.




Believe me this warden WAS a jobsworth you should have seen her........... I was very polite and appologetic but she nearly had me in tears she was saying that I was trying to black mail her and being really horrid when all I wanted to do was pay for the previous night
I didn't know you couldn't do this.............although I have been told by another warden since that she could have done it.

Now if we find we have made good time ...as I said when we went to Dorset this year.......I ring or loiter.






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09/8/2012 at 1:17pm
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Hi, Personally i am with the brigade that like to arrive on time or there just after. Most of the CC sites we visit have limited space and limited access to and from the site due to narrow lanes etc.

And apart from that i am utter rubbish at reversing the van, hence we have a mover attached. 12 noon or 1 pm is plenty time to arrive on site for a stay with out having to be hours early.
We have just returned from Brighton CC site, which from up north is a 6 hour journey for us. and we arrived at 1.20 pm after leaving home at approx 7.30 am. However this site seems to be an exception to the rule as we also noticed units coming prior to the 12 noon arrival time, we even had friends whom were allowed on at 10.00 am!!!!. The road to this site is very restricted also by other vehicles parking on one side.

Therefore in my opinion the rule or guidance is not there to be broken or abused, but as a means of assisting everybody getting to and from the sites with relative ease. Maybe in off season times the times can be relaxed a little but not at peak holiday periods.

Enjoy the rest of the summe all.

Chris W



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