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PersonWebmaster
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According to the Scottish Daily Record, traffic wardens are being tormented by the sight of a caravan on a yellow line outside their depot – because they’re powerless to do anything about it. The caravan’s owner has left it on the yellow line, just yards from the wardens’ Edinburgh HQ, for the last four months. He has taken legal advice and says he knows they are powerless to act.



Apparently the law doesn’t class an unhooked caravan as a vehicle. Council chiefs have been forced to begin talks with the caravan owner to try to get him to move it from the parking spot in Fountainbridge. Local roads manager Dr Andy Edwards admitted: “There is a gap in the law regarding caravans. The owner did mention that he was hoping it will be moved in the next three weeks.” Council transport convener Lesley Hinds added: “We will continue to work with the caravan’s owner to resolve this situation as soon as possible.” Hinds said the caravan wasn’t obstructing the road but Green councillor Gavin Corbett claimed it was forcing cars to swing out into the path of cyclists.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/parking-wardens-left-fuming-by-caravan-1550479

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If its not a 'vehicle' - which it patently isnt, im surprised its not classed as debris, and 'swept' away. And unless it looks a lot better in real life than the image suggests, debris isnt far from the mark.


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I always thought it was illegal to park a caravan on the road when it's not connected to a car. I'm prepared to be wrong.
Either way, I can't see why it can't be moved.

Jim


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Don't tell the travelling people or the streets will become the new Dale Farm.

Nice of the local authority to set aside a special area with yellow lines to enable them to park up more easily.

Think we can all give up the Caravan Club etc in favour of these new sites? Bin collected from the door?  Milkman and postman too?  Possibilities are endless - new office? Burger 'van? - just open the kitchen window.  Suggestions on a postcard.



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Quote: Originally posted by Greendemon315 on 23/1/2013
I always thought it was illegal to park a caravan on the road when it's not connected to a car. I'm prepared to be wrong.
Either way, I can't see why it can't be moved.

Jim

Prepare to be right - and it should display lights at night.

Cops could deal with it.



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I'm guessing that Scots law is different from English law. I don't think you can park a caravan like that in England & get away with it.


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Quote: Originally posted by Greendemon315 on 23/1/2013
I always thought it was illegal to park a caravan on the road when it's not connected to a car. I'm prepared to be wrong.
That's what I thought too, in fact my next-door-but-one neighbour fell foul of this only last summer. He brought his caravan from storage and parked it on the small car park by the side of his house while he prepared for a three week holiday in France, leaving two days later - a knock at the door and a council official was telling him to move it. The one featured is up in Scotland though so maybe Scottish laws on this are different.


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PersonMick S.
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The Scots seem to have a plethora of laws and practices that are better than ours - but this isnt one of them if its true.


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may be wrong but my understanding is anything parked on a public highway/road is classed as an obstuction and can be moved at any time.legal cars and vans are tolerated.phil will know.

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It's not illegal to park a caravan on the public highway provided it is lit and facing the right way but the highways authorities can require it to be moved if it is considerd to be causing an obstruction, restricting vision or inconveniencing other road users.

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Well I'm sure if they were able to legally remove it, it wouldn't be there.

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If it isn't a vehicle why isn't it treated the same as a skip and required to be lit etc


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This would probably be categorised under the Scottish law of motorhome parking as you can legally stop overnight on the side of the road (providing it's not causing an obstruction) or in a lay-by overnight but can't in England and Wales. That's why you see the majority of motorhome hire companies in Scotland and less south of the border. However, as the parked caravan is unoccupied then I don't know how the law would be applied under that specific ruling but whatever, the authorities are reluctant to take the matter further as the sheriff (Scottish judge) can only adhere to Scottish law to which regarding a legal issue may be just another one of those loop holes once again.


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I think its BRILLIANT,well done that man.They cant shift it because its not attached to an engine of any form.Proving its an obstruction would be very hard as they would have to prove what it is obstructing.
As long as its got reflectors to warn of a danger it dont need lights as long as its not attached to a motor vehicle.

As far as i know here..and i might be wrong,any car or bike without and engine can be driven on the road it does not need tax but insurance might be advisable.
This is what a copper told me when he stopped us from towing a car which was to be used for stock car racing.

All skips here must have cones or some sort of warning that its there on a public road as it may be deemed an obstruction or a hazard to road users (The guy who deliverd mine told me that )

I think this guy must be peed off with traffic wardens

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Thanx for posting webby and i hope its on our local news tonight which i will give you an update..

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It was featured in the trailer (!!) for Reporting Scotland ...will see what Jackie Bird and co have to say about it at half past six.

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