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rexton

11/3/2013 at 10:26am
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hi. to everybody

need new tyres for van twin axle.got a quote of £189 for 4

manufactor called admiral. anybody know anything about them

thanks for any info

rexton

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After a look on the web it seems they are a budget tyre could be made any where this is a review on them from another site...

I have come across these before.
As said they are available from kwik fit, as well as many 'online' tyre companies.
They are indeed a budget tyre, but i can find no info on them apart from sizes/dimensions (which to me is a little worrying.no reviews or descriptions)
If you search google for Admiral Tyres, there is a listing for a comany in Pocklington North Yorkshire of that name.
Although the budget lines can save quite a wedge of money in the first instance, they will wear down quickly, thus ultimately meaning you buy them more often saving no real money at all.
And,though these may be ok for normal road use, should you be in an accident, or require sudden braking/manouvering, superior tyres may well prevent the accident.

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Greendemon315

11/3/2013 at 10:57am
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I would be looking for something I'd heard o

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I would be looking for something I'd heard of

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I see nothing wrong with budget tyres for a caravan. They won't be covering a huge mileage and in your case with twin axle, even if you are unlucky and one fails it would be no big problem.

Your quote is pretty good. If you compare that to premium tyres it's a "no-brainer" in my opinion. You pays your money......................

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Your tyres are the only grip you have between the road surface and caravan or vehicle so if you value your unit then I would avoid budget tyres completely because you get what you pay for. The rubber compound is different on cheaper tyres that's why they can manufacture them cheaper and although they may be okay in the dry they may not be so if the road surface is wet which I found out several years ago when I had a minor collision in a small car back in the 70's. So if you can afford well branded name tyres then you are buying a quality constructed tyre that is designed for your safety. I shopped around 2 years ago for a pair of branded name tyres for my caravan and the best buy was 'Avon' which states on the tyre wall that they were also manufactured in England. I now consider safety first as being the main factor and if you value your families lives you shouldn't really prioritise saving money over safety.

Greendemon315

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Quote: Originally posted by oxter on 11/3/2013

I see nothing wrong with budget tyres for a caravan. They won't be covering a huge mileage and in your case with twin axle, even if you are unlucky and one fails it would be no big problem.
Your quote is pretty good. If you compare that to premium tyres it's a "no-brainer" in my opinion. You pays your money......................

Never had a blowout then?

Jim

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Polarised opinions here.

Can someone supply hard information (not manufacturer supplied) about the additional risks, if there are any, of correctly rated budget tyres please

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arc systems

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£47.25 each seems a lot to me for budget tyres?!

Bearing in mind a twin axle and strickly speaking, needs no more than 'car' tyres something like mid £30's would seem more like it then!
So a lot depends on how heavy the van is and exactly what size/type tyres are being offered and what extra service is being included?, ie home fitting

Admiral tyres though have been around for a very long while, don't know any more than that though, how good they are etc, just a bog standard tyre as far as I know?

Whatever though, insist on them being balanced

oxter

11/3/2013 at 6:02pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Greendemon315 on 11/3/2013
Quote: Originally posted by oxter on 11/3/2013
I see nothing wrong with budget tyres for a caravan. They won't be covering a huge mileage and in your case with twin axle, even if you are unlucky and one fails it would be no big problem.
Your quote is pretty good. If you compare that to premium tyres it's a "no-brainer" in my opinion. You pays your money......................

Never had a blowout then?

Jim

Yes Jim

I certainly have on a caravan I bought brand new and the tyres were less than two years old - original equipment on the caravan. First one, then the other within a few months. Want me to name names?
Coachman and Hankook. I did battle and got both replaced by the manufacturer.
I rest my case and have subsequently had no problems with budget tyres.

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oxter

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Quote: Originally posted by arc systems on 11/3/2013
£47.25 each seems a lot to me for budget tyres?!

Bearing in mind a twin axle and strickly speaking, needs no more than 'car' tyres something like mid £30's would seem more like it then!
So a lot depends on how heavy the van is and exactly what size/type tyres are being offered and what extra service is being included?, ie home fitting

Admiral tyres though have been around for a very long while, don't know any more than that though, how good they are etc, just a bog standard tyre as far as I know?

Whatever though, insist on them being balanced

I've never had a twin axle but as far as I know all caravans need van tyres and they tend to be dearer than car tyres.

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11/3/2013 at 7:20pm
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Got to be something wrong if both tyres blew like that. Presumably specified by Coachman. How easy would it have been for the collateral damage from those two blowouts to add up to the cost of a decent set of tyres?

I never understand the obsession with saving money. Sure, if its a barbecue or kitchen equipment, but with tyres and car insurance, the fact that something was cheapest would mean I would not buy it.

Never the cheapest and never the most expensive. Works for me.

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I got Hankooks for £55 off Camskill.co.uk.

Need to have them fitted by a garage, roughly a tenner - £10 + £55 = £65

Still cheaper than many prices I've seen!

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Just to throw in a little information.

Tyres are all rated as to their maximum load rating that can be sustained at maximum speed rating

Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong but most car tyres are rated 86 that means it will carry a load of 530 kgs at its rated speed if the correct tyre pressures are applied. On a single axle that would be 1060kgs. I would think (I'm guessing) that manufacturers would be in serious trouble if the tyre could be shown to have failed at any loading less that that stated.

On a twin axle van 4 tyres at 530kgs gives a trailer weight of 2120kgs - a pretty chunky van I reckon.

Plenty of single axle vans go over the 1060kgs level but it doesn't take a genius to look up the correct load marking (typically available 99, 102, 106). These being van or commercial rated tyres often with a speed rating (confusingly) of 'C'.

Additionally, overweight rated tyres (I have read) can cause a rougher ride and reduced grip as they may not have been matched to the suspension design factors.

Is this a case of 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing'

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michael

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Quote: Originally posted by Greendemon315 on 11/3/2013
Got to be something wrong if both tyres blew like that. Presumably specified by Coachman. How easy would it have been for the collateral damage from those two blowouts to add up to the cost of a decent set of tyres?

I never understand the obsession with saving money. Sure, if its a barbecue or kitchen equipment, but with tyres and car insurance, the fact that something was cheapest would mean I would not buy it.

Never the cheapest and never the most expensive. Works for me.

Jim

Point is Jim, these were fitted as original equipment by Coachman and presumably not budget tyres?
While I would be wary of budget tyres on a car - on a twin axle the weight is spread and there is a "spare" on each side so given the limited mileage covered by a caravan, I see no problem for OP

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