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Subject Topic: 153kg Payload/Bikes
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11/4/2013 at 10:57am
 Location: Hempstead Kent
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Hi all.

The newbie caravanner here again after more advice! I pick my van up on Sat 20 April! So excited!

We have a payload of 153kg to play with. According to the manufacturer's details, the gas bottle is included in the unladen weight but the leisure battery isn't. We have two lightweight gas bottles. How much would I need to allow for the other gas bottle please?

Another question-the van is fitted with a mover so I understand that we need to add that into our payload. Would 40kg be enough there? I am also thinking 30kg for the leisure battery? We have some chairs to stick in somewhere too!

I assume things it came with, eg the microwave would be included in the unladen? Is that correct?

The other question I have is regarding bikes. I would like to take two adult and two children's bikes which I know I need to allow in the payload if we take them in the van. The only thing I am unsure about is how to load them so they don't damage the van, which is not quite a year old yet!! I understand they need to go over the axle. I have read reviews on Carabike racks. Does anybody have Ny experience with these please?

Sorry for all the questions again. All the answers are gradualy getting stored in the memory!!
Thanks

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11/4/2013 at 11:07am
 Location: Lancashire
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Its amazing just how it all tots up, have a butchers at this

van  car 
25 meter cable  /  weighed               4.5  
            Ramp and blocks 2  
110 amp battery  weighed               27  
BP Gaslight  10  
spare wheel etc  weighed              19  
aqua role  weighed              4  
wastemaster / fluid   weighed          6  
Awning and poles    30
oval table   weighed             5  
chairs      x 4      3.5 14
cadac             15
Tv   3.19  
quilt and 4 pillows / sleeping bag          weighed              9  
pegs, mallet, drill etc say      est           5  
towels, bathrobe toiletries     weighed           5  
cutlery, plates kettle knifes and forks                     6  
shoes     
air bed inner tent   3.5
groundsheet               weighed              8  
toiletries 2.5  
windbreak               weighed           3.5  
games /  lights  5  
Clothes      
Surf boards    10
Food 10  
Booze     
jack   10
Total 138 67

 



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11/4/2013 at 11:19am
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Goodness me!!! I am thinking the bikes will be hired when we get there!!

Thanks for that x

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11/4/2013 at 11:23am
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Just for the record the empty weight of my is excludluding the spare wheel,gas bottle and battery. This was clarrified by coachman.

if your unsure take your carvan to a weight bridge and weigh it leave the battery in, that should give you your start weight then you'll know exactly what you,ve got to play with. as the sheet above shows it's very easy to tot the weight up.

i took my van to a weigh bridge before we went on holiday once and found we were 70kg over and that was before i planned to put 4 bikes in. The promted the sheet and a bike rack

Bessie    



11/4/2013 at 11:25am
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our clothes and food are way more than 10kg each
and our groundsheet is to othe best thing to do is weigh your stuff so you know for sure xx


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11/4/2013 at 11:29am
 Location: Hempstead Kent
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Thanks all. Whatever my set up has been, I have always had issues trying to transport the bikes! We love going cycling as a family and this forms a large part of our holiday.

I guess we will just take the children's bikes then and hire the adults.

I will find a weighbridge local to us as I am interested exactly how much the van does weigh.

From what I read somewhere, the unladen ysed to include the leisure battery and not the gas bottle but now it is round the other way.

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11/4/2013 at 11:33am
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Thats my point my list is at 138 kg with out clothes and as we holiday in this country its 4 x warm weather stuff and 4 x artic clothes.The 10kg of food is just tinned food ie beans soup hotdogs so no real meals.

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11/4/2013 at 11:36am
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The unladen weight excludes both, with so many types of batteries and gas bottles the manufactures would only be guessing

 

Bessie   



11/4/2013 at 11:37am
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I'd actually weigh your bikes aswell as you'll be shocked at just how heavy they can get

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11/4/2013 at 1:03pm
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I would put the bikes on the roof of the car and not in the van. I little less fuel efficient but far better for weight ratio's and stability. I carry 4 on the roof and my latest van had a 2 bike rack on the rear of the van but didn't fancy and extra 30kgs hanging all the way out back and swinging around. Personally if you are new to towing don't but them on the back of van even if manufacturer says you can IMO.


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11/4/2013 at 1:19pm
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Part of the fun is getting it all in, We are lucky with our van as we have a 250 kgs payload. We also struggle with the bikes, so only take then when really necessary, normally however just take the childrens bike (7yr old) or scooter, and 1 mountain bike (adult). Mountain bike weights 14kgs and 7yrs 8kgs. Its really amazing though how soon it mounts up.

be careful.
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11/4/2013 at 1:21pm
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I've seen the list before and I am sceptical about some Id the figures. 4kg for an empty aquaroll? A quilt and 4 pillows 9kg? Someone must have an uncomfortable bed.


11/4/2013 at 1:41pm
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  I Had old roof bars cut them to fit between seats and put cycle carriers on them. Put in the 2 boys bikes 2 bungey straps and away you go.

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Post last edited on 11/04/2013 13:51:05

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11/4/2013 at 1:52pm
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I used this as a basic guide and found it very useful:

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/view.asp?id=14

The only way to be absolutely sure how much everything weighs is to invest in a good set of scales and literally weigh everything you put in the van.

To double check, I would suggest going to a local weighbridge to double check the weights as if you are over the vans MTPLM and get pulled by the police you can get into some serious bother and you also invalidate your insurance and any warrenty, which wouldn't be a good start to your holiday!



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11/4/2013 at 2:21pm
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I've just weighed my empty aquaroll and it was 4.6kg without the handle. I'm allowing 5kg. The wastemaster is heavier again


11/4/2013 at 2:24pm
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A summer weight duvalay is 4.7kg in case anyone is interested



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