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Subject Topic: AluTech - how`s it going?
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29/4/2013 at 11:53am
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It's been a couple of years since Bailey introduced AluTech - I was just wondering if there have been any issues? Is it a resounding success? Can Bailey rightfully say they have banished the dreaded Damp?

Apologies if there has been threads on this and I've missed them (nothing obvious when searching).


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29/4/2013 at 12:29pm
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Read the other day that they are having trouble with the fitting of the panels could be due to the clamping system not doing its job by only being tightened every three years. do not know the facts you need to ask bailey direct.do not take my word for it can only say what I read.

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29/4/2013 at 1:21pm
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Bailey have removed the need for the three year tightening & checking. That also includes vans already in service, not just new ones.

Three years in & no Alutech issues with our van. I love the crisp interior styling (no wallpaper) & apart from the draught through the fridge vent, the van is nice & warm even when the outside temperatures are below freezing.

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29/4/2013 at 1:33pm
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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 29/4/2013
Read the other day that they are having trouble with the fitting of the panels could be due to the clamping system not doing its job by only being tightened every three years. do not know the facts you need to ask bailey direct.do not take my word for it can only say what I read.



wrong info
no torqueing required of the clamps at 3 years .
no issues with panel fit either.ours is 3.5 years old now


29/4/2013 at 1:38pm
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Can only say what I have read time will tell.

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29/4/2013 at 1:42pm
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Ours is 3 years old, it has been absolutely fine, no damp issues at all.

They did have some issues with some getting damp in the front lockers which were rectified by dealers or Bailey .



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29/4/2013 at 1:44pm
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Thanks yes I have read of 3 with damp issues to the front.

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29/4/2013 at 3:10pm
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water gets in via the grab handles and / or the floor / front panel joint and settles below the plastic trays in the front / side lockers . cant be seen unless the trays are removed .
well worth removing the trays to find what horrors lurk underneath


29/4/2013 at 3:44pm
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No issues here either at three and a half years old.


29/4/2013 at 4:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bev+jon on 29/4/2013water gets in via the grab handles and / or the floor / front panel joint and settles below the plastic trays in the front / side lockers . cant be seen unless the trays are removed .
well worth removing the trays to find what horrors lurk underneath


Just got rid of ours 12 month old Pegasus due to damp. I managed to dry it out and stop anymore getting in but lost faith in the van.
Wouldn't buy another Alu-Tek eventhough they say they have solved it. Once bitten etc!


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29/4/2013 at 5:26pm
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It really cracks me up, the number of people lining up to kick Bailey if one of their caravans leak.
"Wouldn't buy another Alu-Tek eventhough they say they have solved it. Once bitten etc!"
Ok buy an old fashioned wooden framed plywood walled caravan. If (more likely when)it leaks, the water lurks in the walls, hidden from view by the pvc covering on the wall board. The first thing you notice is a spongy patch on the wall. Then the big job to replace rotten wall boards and timber frame.
On an alu tech van any water ingress will form a puddle on the floor, easy to spot early. The walls being wood free will not be affected


29/4/2013 at 6:26pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Andy Higham on 29/4/2013
It really cracks me up, the number of people lining up to kick Bailey if one of their caravans leak.
"Wouldn't buy another Alu-Tek eventhough they say they have solved it. Once bitten etc!"
Ok buy an old fashioned wooden framed plywood walled caravan. If (more likely when)it leaks, the water lurks in the walls, hidden from view by the pvc covering on the wall board. The first thing you notice is a spongy patch on the wall. Then the big job to replace rotten wall boards and timber frame.
On an alu tech van any water ingress will form a puddle on the floor, easy to spot early. The walls being wood free will not be affected




And what happens to water collecting on the floor. Do you just wear wellies. Or mop it up. ?
Not always easy to spot it could affect carpets etc. there should never be leaks of any sort.
The way people just are expected to put up with problems. This is not only for bailey owners.



29/4/2013 at 6:51pm
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not at all easy to spot early , not when its well hidden under the plastic trays.
doesnt seem to affect the living area anyway just the side lockers and bailey sort it under warranty.


29/4/2013 at 7:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Andy Higham on 29/4/2013
It really cracks me up, the number of people lining up to kick Bailey if one of their caravans leak.
"Wouldn't buy another Alu-Tek eventhough they say they have solved it. Once bitten etc!"
Ok buy an old fashioned wooden framed plywood walled caravan. If (more likely when)it leaks, the water lurks in the walls, hidden from view by the pvc covering on the wall board. The first thing you notice is a spongy patch on the wall. Then the big job to replace rotten wall boards and timber frame.
On an alu tech van any water ingress will form a puddle on the floor, easy to spot early. The walls being wood free will not be affected



Er think if I bought any caravan which leaked regardless of how easy to spot I'd be seriously annoyed and would reconsider my choices next time. Apart from spending £18ish k on a van not fit for purpose I'm then subject to the stressful and traumatic time consuming process of having to negotiate with dealers, manufacturer with van out of action to get it all sorted! If shoddy workmanship shows itself in one form why not another!


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Quote: Originally posted by nora on 29/4/2013
Quote: Originally posted by Andy Higham on 29/4/2013It really cracks me up, the number of people lining up to kick Bailey if one of their caravans leak.
"Wouldn't buy another Alu-Tek eventhough they say they have solved it. Once bitten etc!"
Ok buy an old fashioned wooden framed plywood walled caravan. If (more likely when)it leaks, the water lurks in the walls, hidden from view by the pvc covering on the wall board. The first thing you notice is a spongy patch on the wall. Then the big job to replace rotten wall boards and timber frame.
On an alu tech van any water ingress will form a puddle on the floor, easy to spot early. The walls being wood free will not be affected




And what happens to water collecting on the floor. Do you just wear wellies. Or mop it up. ?
Not always easy to spot it could affect carpets etc. there should never be leaks of any sort.
The way people just are expected to put up with problems. This is not only for bailey owners.




I would think its a lot easier to spot a puddle on the floor or a damp carpet, and then do something about it. Rather than the damp hiding in the wall until it shows up as rot.
The greater the number of joints between panels, or penetrations through the outer skin the greater the chance of leaks. How many screws hold an awning rail on? each one is a potential leak as is the joint between each panel.
Any construction method that reduces the number of these potential leak points must be applauded. As must the wall and roof construction method which eliminates wood from its construction.
There may be a few problems with leaks, but how many of them are down to the proprietry hatches and windows?


29/4/2013 at 7:39pm
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It appears Bailey have now produced over 20000 units with alutech construction. Based on complaints aired on this and other forums the problem rate is very low, I think the other manufacturers would like to match their record! There appears to be far more complaints about the other manufacturers.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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