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Subject Topic: Using Steadies to level van?
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18/5/2013 at 11:17pm
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I was on Amazon and, for no good reason I started reading the customer reviews of "2 Way Caravan Levelling Aid Indicator".

Two reviews gave helpful hints which included using the jockey wheel to level fore & aft (fair enough) - but then using the corner steadies to level the van.
Do people do this and get away without twisting the chassis?

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18/5/2013 at 11:46pm
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Simple answer....no. You should level it side to side by raising one of your wheels with ramps or bits of wood etc. The corner steadies are no way up to leveling the weight of the van.


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19/5/2013 at 12:12am
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The corner steadies are fixed and secured directly under the wooden caravan floor but both wheels are supported by a single steel axle tube so all you need to ask yourself is which is the strongest of the two? So the answer is to raise one of the caravan wheels by aid of a ramp to level the caravan and anyone using the steadies as lifting jacks is going to encounter problems in the future whereby the floor will eventually depart from the galvanised chassis which is not a problem that can be easily rectified once the wooden base is twisted. 


19/5/2013 at 1:10am
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The reason I posted this is that, out of about 32 reviews, only 2 made detailed comments on how to use it - and both of these talked about using the steadies for leveling.

That suggests to me that there might be a sizable number of people out there who think that this is a good idea.

I hope I never buy a second-hand van from one of them.

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19/5/2013 at 7:45am
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I use a clear plastic cup with coloured stripes as my two way indicator.

I am such a cheapskate.

We only started using a caravan last year but even we knew iTheI steadies are for steadying not levelling or they be called "levellers" wouldn't they?

Our van has a bit of a twist in it anyway we think due to being rear ended on the left side so we take extra care not to put the 'van under undue strain and use a ramp for levelling.


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19/5/2013 at 9:32am
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NO, have a look under your caravan you may find that the corner steady's are attached to the floor of the van and not the chassis.
using them to jack up or level will cause the body of the van to twist on its chassis followed by damaged seals and possible damp

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19/5/2013 at 9:40am
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A friend of mine told me once how he managed to change the tyre on his caravan by useing the legs to lift the van, he couldn't find the jack.
It worked so if the van is solid they are probably strong enough but its not advised.


19/5/2013 at 9:48am
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This is our first van and I am not sure about this levelling thing. The suppliers delivered our van to the site (seasonal pitch) and put it on a grass pitch(no hard standings available till July).
The first time we used it we knew it wasn't level as the doors kept swinging open, the front end was low. The man who owns the site used a drill to raise the front steadies, then he put blocks of wood under them. The van is on a bit of a slope as well. Was that the correct thing to do? I noticed that quite a few vans have wood or concrete slabs under their steadies as well.
It is worrying me now that he did the wrong thing but as we know very little and his family have had the site for years and are obviously experienced we just trusted him.
I would be very grateful for your advice.


19/5/2013 at 9:54am
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Level across the axle first, so put all the legs back up, check level across axle, if it is out push van forward place a bit of wood where the wheel was and push van back, do this untill it is level across axle, then higher or lower jockey wheel untill level fron front to back. Lower legs to steady caravan job done, if legs don't reach floor put wood under them.


19/5/2013 at 10:07am
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Quote: Originally posted by lunarvenus on 19/5/2013
A friend of mine told me once how he managed to change the tyre on his caravan by useing the legs to lift the van, he couldn't find the jack.
It worked so if the van is solid they are probably strong enough but its not advised.

Never ever use the steadies to lift the van up either to level it or to change a tyre. It may look like your friend got away with it for a bit but its likely to have put too much strain on the caravan floor which in turn does the same to the front & rear panels causing cracking and leaks.

Dave



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19/5/2013 at 10:03pm
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Like most people, when the van is in storage I put the steadies down.

It has occurred to me that, if one of the tyres had a slow puncture, this would transfer the weight of the van from the axle to the corner steadies.

So it's worth checking tyre pressure at (reasonably) frequent intervals.

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19/5/2013 at 10:32pm
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I got a little spirit level for the caravan. It disappeared bt I never miss it. Most pitches are pretty level anyway . . fore and aft is no prob, but side to side would be! Check before you book!!

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Peripheral people don`t have as much excitement but they sure live longer


20/5/2013 at 12:29am
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We have a small spirit level, it was £1.99 from Tesco many years ago and it works just fine. It's kept in the front locker so we don't lose it.

Saw a van parked with the jockey wheel up off of the ground last year when away, never saw the owner to ask him about it, but thought it an odd thing to do. I guess the wheels were still taking the weight, but even so surely the jockey wheel being down must be better? Was a nice level CC pitch.


20/5/2013 at 2:14am
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the steadies are just that,steadies it stops the caravan from rocking too and fro.after the two wheels have been levelled looking from the front,then level front to back using a spirit level on level floor near the fridge.( it is most important that the floor is level for the fridge to run correctly). then after this the steadies are lowered to steady without lifting any corner.the steadies are fixed to the wood floor of the caravan.if you overwind the steady you could at worst twist the chassis because the floor is fixed to the chassis.failing this overwind will push up the floor and anything fixed to the top of it like funiture like a wardrobe into the roof space.if the caravan is not level then it is just possible your awning will not sit correctly ie.too high,too low sloping one way or the other.not level things roll off working tops.toilet doors fall open by themselves.and one of the worst things is the water drainage because it can not drain correctly, too much one way and water will not drain at all.also when you pull out the plug on the sink the water could come up through the plug hole in the base of the shower tray,or even back up the bathroom sink plug hole until it has time to slowly drain away.i have seen both of these when people on site have asked me to have a look why water was coming up the plug hole in the shower base.just my view for what its worth.

 



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I have seen people try to do it on site. It looks like very hard work! Even seen the site owner's son in law doing it.

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Quote: Originally posted by Monty8 on 19/5/2013
This is our first van and I am not sure about this levelling thing. The suppliers delivered our van to the site (seasonal pitch) and put it on a grass pitch(no hard standings available till July).
The first time we used it we knew it wasn't level as the doors kept swinging open, the front end was low. The man who owns the site used a drill to raise the front steadies, then he put blocks of wood under them. The van is on a bit of a slope as well. Was that the correct thing to do? I noticed that quite a few vans have wood or concrete slabs under their steadies as well.
It is worrying me now that he did the wrong thing but as we know very little and his family have had the site for years and are obviously experienced we just trusted him.
I would be very grateful for your advice.



You would think site owners know the ropes but we too were told to level with the steadies. Thankfully been caravanning since I was about 7 and declined that option!

Ali



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