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GCMS2012

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A 7kg gas bottle doesn't stang up in our front locker.

We find it more economical to get a bigger one instead of a 4.5kg.

Can you use it when it's laid on it's side in the locker?

Similar to the forklifts that use LPG cylinders strapped to thier rear ends?

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Forklift bottles are used on their side as they draw liquid not vapour. Turn your vapour bottle on it's side and it'll draw liquid and chances are not work as it'll block the regulator.

It's also incredibly dangerous so don't do it.

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http://www.wildcamping.co.uk/forums/motorhome-problems/10195-using-calor-gas-bottle-stored-its-side-problem.html

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don't do it, leisure LPG tanks need to be stood up to get gas out of them, not liquid, on its side liquid LPG will enter the system, very not good!!

forklift bottles are liquid withdrawl types (hence a different colour) same as a car runs off liquid LPG, they have a vapouriser under the bonnet to turn the liquid to gas.

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I was going to say, forklifts use a different cylinder, same gas, but the insides are slightly different.

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2 x 4.5s?

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As you're using a 7KG bottle then it must be butane. Have you looked to see if a 6KG propane is smaller? You might get away with that although you'll need to change the regulator/fittings.

The other option would be to lower the locker floor. You could possibly cut out the bottle mount and fabricate a lower one.

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Quote: Originally posted by jayc001 on 23/5/2013As you're using a 7KG bottle then it must be butane. Have you looked to see if a 6KG propane is smaller? You might get away with that although you'll need to change the regulator/fittings.

Both are the same bottle just different colour and connection.

If an extra 0.5Kg would be useful (I doubt it though) a 5Kg BP Lite might be worth considering. 100mm shorter than CC 6/7Kg bottles.

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jayc001

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I think the OP want's the economical benefits rather than the quantitive benefits.

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Quote: Originally posted by jayc001 on 23/5/2013

I think the OP want's the economical benefits rather than the quantitive benefits.

Maybe but if the CC 6/7Kg won't fit this is a possible solution, whether it's worth the money over a 4.5 / 3.9Kg CC personally I doubt it.

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We don't have a 4.5kg (butane) bottle to exchange, only the 13kg propane we're using now, and the 7kg butane ATM.

Oh, and an empty 15kg butane I got from work today to use as an exchange bottle.

Can you exchange a near similar kg butane for propane and vis versa?

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23/5/2013 at 8:23pm
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If you go to Calor, then you can exchange butane for propane and vice versa and also different sizes at no extra charge. Agents (eg petrol stations, caravan sites etc) will only exchange like for like cylinders.

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How long roughly, does a little butane or propane bottle last?

We go away Saturday (for the BH week), so was thinking of using the remainder of the big bottle at home for the BBQ, and get a fresh bottle for going away with.....

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According to Calors own web site, they recommend the 6kg, Lite and the 13kg Propane for touring caravans.

No mention of Butane?

Getting confused now.................................

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Just back from a month in Cornwall, we took a 4.5 butane. we barbe,d and used the gas rings and oven everyday, and its still got some left in it. Why take anything bigger?

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As DaveCoaches says, you can exchange Calor cylinders for others in the same Group.

The reason for recommending propane for caravans is probably because they are generally more likely than tents to be used in lower (around 5 degrees Celcius and below) ambient temperatures, when butane would struggle to vaporise, but if you are only using your 'van in the warmer months there's no reason why - using the appropriate regulator, or "pigtail" connector to a bulkhead regulator - butane could not be used instead.

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